All the Brass Instruments I've Ever Owned
Over the years, I have owned nearly a hundred brass instruments. I thought it would be fun (both for me to write, and for the reader to read) to show all of them in one place and give my thoughts. Enjoy!
Horns
1947 Conn 6D Artist - This is a 6D from the era where it was a top-of-the-line professional instrument, long before it became an intermediate horn meant for schools. As such, it has the quality and sound you would expect from a pro-model Elkhart Conn. Unfortunately, most 6Ds this old have had bell transplants due to the original bells getting damaged beyond repair, and this one is no exception. The bell looks to be an early Abilene bell, probably from a 4D student model. It’s a shame the horn lacks its original bell, but despite the transplant it still plays and sounds fantastic. This is the second early 6D I’ve owned, and I’m so glad to have the small-throat 6D sound in my stable again. I do plan on eventually getting a new O’Malley bell for it, along with other modifications.
1990 King 2270 Eroica - This horn is just about the polar opposite from the Conn 6D above. It has a massive bell throat that is even larger than a Conn 8D’s throat, and is extremely free-blowing. Designed by George McCracken, the Eroica is known for being one of the most open-blowing horns of all time and having a huge sound. The Eroica never caught on as a desired horn for professionals like the Conn 8D or Alex 103, but it is a wonderful horn nonetheless and I was able to acquire it for cheap thanks to its relative obscurity.
Yamaha YHR-321 - This is a single Bb horn with stopping valve, and is one heck of a sleeper. Yamaha has a habit of making instruments they market as student models, but are secretly pro-quality gems, and the YHR-321 is no exception. It is a copy of the Alexander 90, a professional single Bb horn historically played by many professionals including Dennis Brain. The light weight and easy high range make this horn a good descant horn substitute for a fraction of the cost.
Selmer Thevet Ascendant - This is a true French horn, built by Selmer Paris as one of the last examples of the French tradition of small bore piston horns with ascending 3rd valves. I’ve dreamed of owning one of these for many years, and while it is not yet in playing condition I am so thrilled to now own one. These are extremely rare and command collector prices, but thanks to the severed leadpipe I managed to snag this one for an unfathomably low price.
1936 Buescher 330 - This is a license-built copy of the famed Alexander 103 double horn. It has the sweetest sound, but unfortunately the rotors are badly in need of a rebuild for it to be usable, so I sold it to a Buescher collector.
Hampson Horns/Jackalope Brassworks corno da tirarsi - The corno da tirarsi, a.k.a. slide horn, is a very rare and unique instrument that J.S. Bach wrote for. I am fortunate enough to own this wonderful modern slide horn, which can be crooked to Bb, A, Ab, or G. It has a lovely sweet sound and is an impeccably-built handmade instrument. I used it extensively in my latest Christmas multitrack.
1938 Conn 6D Artist - This is the first early 6D that I owned, and it was my only double horn for awhile. Despite its totally worn-out valves, it was still possible to make it do your bidding and it had a special sound. I kept it around after getting another horn in hopes of eventually getting it restored, but money dried up and I had to sell it before I got the chance.
1971 Holton Farkas H178 - Nowadays, Holton Farkas double horns are a common sight in high schools, and generally have a reputation for being student-level instruments. But a good one is every bit a professional instrument, and that’s doubly true for the early ones such as this one from 1971. This is the horn I replaced the derelict 1938 6D above with, and it was my only horn for quite a few years before being replaced by my King Eroica. This particular H178 was an exceptional example of the model, and every horn player who tried it loved it. However, the yellow brass medium-throat bell was neither fish nor fowl to me…the sound had none of the qualities of both small-throat (a la 6D, 103) or large-throat (a la 8D) bells that I love. Instead it languished somewhere in the middle, and I was never able to achieve a sound I was truly happy with on it. It was a solid workhorse, but I was happy to replace it with the Eroica.
Holton MH101 - This Bb marching horn has to be in the top 5 most Seussian instruments of all time. Its specs are just as odd as its looks, too; it has a tiny bell throat and a trumpet shank, the latter of which allows you to use a whole variety of mouthpieces with it. With a horn mouthpiece and adapter, it’s a decent little marching horn. But the other mouthpieces far more interesting. Despite being pitched a 5th lower, this horn could scream better than most mellophones with a marching mellophone or trumpet mouthpiece. It is a truly hilarious instrument, but at the end of the day I absolutely didn’t need it for anything, so off it went.
Getzen 383 frumpet - This doesn’t really belong with the horns, but it doesn’t really belong anywhere else either and it takes a horn mouthpiece so I’m putting it here. Anyway, if you’re reading this you probably already know about the frumpet. It is awful. Don’t buy one, no matter how cheap.
Schiller Field Series Elite Bb marching horn (not pictured) - I briefly owned this Yamaha YHR-302MS clone, and it was exactly…ok. Not great, not awful. It was given to me for free, and I gave it away for free.
Trumpets
Yamaha YTR-737 - This is my workhorse trumpet, and is the only trumpet to leave the house with very rare exception. It was made in the late 1970s, during a period where all of Yamaha’s professional trumpets were designed in collaboration with Renold Schilke. Some, including mine, were even assembled in the Schilke factory! The result is these horns play pretty much like Schilkes, for a fraction of the cost. The YTR-737 in particular is essentially a Schilke B5 with Yamaha written on it. This horn is excellent for the commercial work I do on trumpet. If I ever start getting classical trumpet gigs, I may need to acquire a darker-sounding Bach-style Bb, but until then the 737 does everything I need.
Selman 17001 - I’ve owned this Chinese C trumpet for a long time, even longer than the YTR-737 above. I got it on eBay for $85, and it has exceeded my (low) expectations from day one. It is a perfectly competent C trumpet. Not perfect of course, but really no C trumpet is and the quirks this one has are very manageable. It also doesn’t have the sterling sound of a nice Bach or Yamaha Xeno, but for what I need C trumpet for (mostly just my own multitracks) it is completely fine. Sure, it would be nice to get a better C eventually, but why spend 4 figures when this $85 horn is decent enough?
JinYin JYTR-A688 - This is a Chinese Eb/D trumpet that has same story as my Selman C trumpet above: I got it used for very cheap on eBay, I had low expectations, and the horn exceeded all of them. Again it is not perfect, but it genuinely plays very well and has a nice, light sound. For an instrument that I will literally never need, a really cheap one was the only way I was ever going to own one and this JinYin is good enough that it is a viable option in my arsenal.
Bach 351G alto trumpet - This is one of the coolest instruments I own - a Bach F alto trumpet with a gold brass bell. The Bach alto trumpets were built in very small numbers up through the early 2000s, in both F and E-flat. They are very rare and probably the best alto trumpets ever made, and I have never seen another one with a gold bell. This one is in mint condition and plays like a dream. This is 100% a forever horn!
J. Melich Eb/D bass trumpet - This rotary bass trumpet is also a fairly recent acquisition, and replaced my Bb rotary bass trumpet. It is old and worn, but it has a fantastic trumpet sound and plays very well throughout the whole range of the instrument - down into the pedal register and up through sounding Gb5, the highest note in the repertoire.
Mendini MPT-N - This Chinese Amazon-special pocket trumpet was a Christmas gift, and I love it because it is small enough to keep on my desk and noodle with whenever I feel like. I have actually played it on a gig before, though. It is a decent little trumpet - nothing spectacular, but there’s nothing actually wrong with it either. It just…works. I also find the left hand grip and 3rd valve kicker to be more comfortable than they are on normal trumpets, which kind of makes me want a professional trumpet with the pocket trumpet’s valve cluster but with a standard leadpipe and a full-size, un-coiled bell.
1968 Conn 8B Artist - I never actually took a picture of this horn by itself, which is surprising considering it was my main trumpet for quite a few years. I bought it for $50 via Craigslist from a farmer in the middle of nowhere in Illinois, who had used it as a wallhanger for 50 years. Looking back on it, I really should have prioritized finding a better Bb trumpet sooner, as it really wasn’t an instrument I should have been gigging on. The valves were worn, it was hard to play, and I never got a sound that I really liked on it. When I finally got my YTR-737, I realized just how much the 8B had been holding me back.
1965 Conn 6B Victor - I got this years after selling the 8B, entirely because I was curious what a trumpet with the same basic design as the 8B but in much better condition would be like. I still didn’t like it very much, but it was definitely a better player than my 8B had been. I sold it on pretty quickly.
Carol Brass CTR-2000H-YSS - Another horn that I owned and sold long before I started taking pictures of all my instruments, this student-model Carol was my first Bb trumpet, naturally bought for cheap on eBay. It was…almost decent. I definitely wasn’t great at trumpet back then, but the trumpet definitely felt harder to play than even the Conn 8B that I replaced it with. I gave it to my grad school roommate before I moved to LA.
Holton LT101 - The LT101 is a fairly rare lightweight copy of a Bach 37 with a 25 leadpipe. I got this one for very cheap from a friend, and was interested to see if I took to Bach-style trumpets any better than I had when I owned the Carol trumpet above. Despite the fact that this LT101 was a good player, the answer was a resounding “no.”
Josef Lidl Bb bass trumpet - This was my first bass trumpet, which I replaced with my current Melich Eb/D. It was decent and had a real trumpet sound, which is why these Lidls are the gold standard cheap bass trumpets amongst trombonists. But it had plenty of challenges, and my Melich Eb/D bass trumpet played circles around it in every register, so it was an easy decision to sell it off.
Mollenhauer low Eb trumpet - This was a true orchestral low Eb trumpet. Not an alto trumpet or bass trumpet, but a proper long Eb trumpet like the Heldenleben parts were written for. It had a totally different sound that was much closer to a baroque trumpet than a modern one. But it was also very hard to play and had woeful intonation, and though I did manage to sneak a few tracks of it onto a TV commercial, it didn’t last long before I sold it. I would love to own a long orchestral trumpet again, but it would need to be a better-quality instrument in F.
Cornets
Yamaha YCR-2310 - This is my current cornet, and by far the best-sounding and playing out of all the Bb cornets I’ve owned. The YCR-231 and 2310 are interesting sleeper models, because although they don’t have Shepherd’s crooks, they have large bores and properly large British-style bell throats. The result is that they have a real, dark, beefy, British brass band cornet sound, despite looking like American cornets. Their Shepherd’s crook stablemates, the YCR-233 and 2330, were actually built with more American specs and sound much brighter. It’s like Yamaha forgot which model was supposed to be the British-style one. The upside is that the 231/2310, which looks like yet another worthless student cornet, can be bought for next to nothing.
1964 Olds Ambassador - This cornet was decent. It was a nice player and well-built like all Ambassadors, but the sound was too bright and trumpety for my tastes, even with a deep Wick British cornet mouthpiece. That said, it was still a significant upgrade over my Bach CR310. The thing about student-model cornets is that they are basically worthless as they’re not used in schools anymore, so you can get a nice playing cornet for next to nothing. I found both this and the Yamaha above on eBay, without much searching, for about $50. So if you are looking to add a high brass instrument to your stable on a small budget, I would recommend looking for a student cornet rather than a student trumpet. With an American cornet mouthpiece it sounds like a trumpet, and with a British cornet mouthpiece it has a sweeter, mellower sound.
Bach CR310 - I’ve had this student-model cornet (which is a Bundy in all but name) for a long time. It was my first high brass instrument, and I used it heavily in my 2013 Christmas multitrack. I’ve spent a lot of time with this thing, and…it’s not very good. It is currently in the shop having some mad science done to it in order to turn it into something entirely different, which is really the only way forward.
DEG 1220 - This is an alto cornet in F, made for DEG by Willson. The 1220 was marketed in the United States as a “marching alto/French horn”, whatever that means, but is all cornet. These are great players, as you would expect from Willson. Not without quirks, but a totally manageable, giggable, and recordable instrument. I used mine a ton while I had it, but I ultimately sold it during a rough financial patch. I’d happily own one again.
Flugelhorns
Couesnon flugelhorn - This pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn is one of my favorite and most-used instruments. Being so old, it is definitely not as easy to play as a modern flugelhorn, even with the GR/Melk leadpipe I had installed. But the luscious sound is more than worth it. I think only a really special modern flugelhorn, like a custom Adams, would be worth replacing this with. And those cost thousands of dollars…this cost $300.
Elkhart alto flugelhorn - This alto flugelhorn is in F, with Eb slide. It is stamped Elkhart, but was made by Couesnon. It was a perfect match to my Couesnon flugelhorn in both sound and feel, and was one of the easier-to-play weird alto brass instruments I’ve owned. But it still had its quirks, and I later acquired a Kanstul KMA-275 marching alto in F that, while technically not an alto flugelhorn, did the alto flugelhorn thing even better than this actual alto flugelhorn. So, I sold it off.
G Bugles
Dynasty G350A soprano bugle - The Dynasty 3-valve soprano bugle (essentially a trumpet in G with a large bore and bell throat) went through a few variations over the years. Some were made by Allied Supply in Elkhorn, Wisconsin, while others were made by Weril in Brazil. The G350A was made by Allied before 1993. Soprano bugles were known to be screamers, and the G350A is no exception. But its secret weapon is its fat sound in the low register; with the right mouthpiece, it is an excellent alto trumpet in G. This is mostly how I used it when I owned it - you can hear it used in this way in my Way Away multitrack.
King K-50 mellophone bugle - Arguably the most legendary mellophone bugle of them all, the 2-valve K-50 is the sports car of mellophones. The bright, crystal clear sound and effortless high register make the K-50 a weapon in the right hands. I had a blast with mine, and would have kept it if money permitted. Two valves isn’t much of a limitation when you have F mellophones to cover lower parts and can keep the K-50 in the upper register, and I used this combination in the Way Away multitrack linked above.
Kanstul KAB-175 alto bugle - The alto bugle is a mellophone bugle with a much smaller bell flare, and while it was much less common than the mellophone or French horn bugles, it did see use in DCI. This early pattern Kanstul KAB-175 is legitimately one of the best instruments I’ve ever played. It was so easy to play, to the point where it was addicting and very difficult to put down. Yet despite this, I ended up selling it because the sound it made (in between a mellophone and a trumpet) was pretty useless. Out of all the instruments I’ve sold, this is the only one I regret selling.
Dynasty III alto bugle - This alto bugle was built for Dynasty by Willson, and is a very different instrument than the Kanstul alto bugle above. This one played and sounded like a big flugelhorn, and despite some odd intonation quirks was a very good instrument overall. It is also one of a handful of brass instruments I’ve owned where there is only one known example in the world. Before I found it on Canadian eBay and bought it, there was no evidence on the Internet of this particular model ever existing, and we still don’t know if any others were made.
Kanstul MFL meehaphone - The meehaphone is the most legendary G bugle of them all. Built for and used by the Blue Devils from 1987 to 1991, it is essentially a field descant horn in G. There is only one meehaphone in the world in private hands, and for awhile I was lucky enough to be the owner. I sold it mainly because, while extremely cool, the meehaphone didn’t have a special sound and wasn’t a great player. Still, I feel very privileged to have owned it.
Kanstul low alto bugle - The low alto bugle is essentially a G French horn bugle with a trumpet shank. Only 6 were made, and they were used by the Mandarins in DCI. I got this one on eBay for about $100, with a crunched bell and listed as a marching baritone. It’s one of those instruments that I never thought I’d get to even see, let alone own. I’ve been fortunate enough to have many such instruments come through my collection, mostly via eBay. I really enjoyed playing the low alto, especially as the trumpet shank allowed for many different mouthpiece possibilities (like the Holton MH101 Bb marching horn) and the low alto somehow played great with all of them. I held until the low alto the longest out of my G bugles because it played well, made different sounds than anything else I had, and was just a really cool thing to own. But it too eventually got sold off because I had nowhere (other than my own multitracks) to use it.
Kanstul KHB-185 French horn bugle - This is the French horn bugle that the low alto bugle was based on, and is a rare bird itself with only 14 known to have been made. It was a fabulous instrument, and may be the closest thing to a true horn sound from a bell-front instrument that’s ever been made. I loved it. I got it before the low alto, and sold it in favor of the low alto, because with a horn adapter and a horn mouthpiece, the low alto could do the same thing while also having all the other available mouthpieces available.
Kanstul KBB-190 baritone bugle - In my opinion the best of the G baritones, this is an instrument that I would look at on the Kanstul website and dream of owning as a high schooler. (I’ve always been a nerd, what can I say?) Like all of my other G bugles, I found this for cheap on eBay. It was a wonderful player, with a huge yet colorful sound that distinguished it from any Bb marching baritone. But, like all the other G bugles, I eventually just couldn’t find a reason to keep it when there was no real use for it…not to mention that I already owned a flugabone, a British baritone horn, a marching baritone, and a euphonium.
Mellophones
Yamaha YMP-204MS - The Yamaha 204 needs no introduction - it is the gold standard of all mellophones. I finally acquired a 204 of my own recently, and it immediately became my workhorse mellophone. The 204 is not perfect, but it is SO much closer to perfect than most other mellophones. I can’t think of any reason why this would ever leave my stable.
1993 King 1120 - This became my workhorse mellophone the second I bought it in 2023. Its position has recently been usurped by the Yamaha 204 above, and its days in my possession are probably numbered. Still, it is a solid mellophone that was very easy for me to acclimate to after owning its father and grandfather, and I can heartily recommend it to anyone looking for a good marching mellophone for cheap. It is by far the best mellophone that is readily available for less than $200 on eBay, and has served me very well.
King 1121 - The 1121 is what replaced the 1120, and is an incremental improvement. The most notable differences are the angled leadpipe, spring-loaded first valve slide, and re-wrapped 3rd valve slide. I bought this one cheap mainly to compare it to my 1120.
Kanstul KMA-275 - This is a rare small-bell variation on the marching mellophone called a marching alto. Apart from the size of the bell flare, this KMA-275 is the same instrument as Kanstul’s late-pattern marching mellophone, the KMM-280. The marching alto and marching mellophone have the exact same relationship as the alto bugle and mellophone bugle. Much like the alto bugles I’ve owned, the 275’s smaller flare makes it lose much of the characteristic mellophone sound. However, unlike my Kanstul 175 alto bugle that was far too flat when using a tenor horn mouthpiece, the 275 will happily play in tune with a tenor horn mouthpiece, giving it a dark alto flugelhorn sound. This sound is so flugelly, in fact, that I sold my actual alto flugelhorn shortly after acquiring the 275. It’s also just an excellent instrument in general, with solid intonation, good ergonomics, and a main tuning slide kicker to let you fix any note on the fly.
1969 Conn 16E - This is the instrument that started my obsession with obscure brass instruments. I bought it on eBay in 2011, shortly after graduating high school, and it was my gateway drug. I still have it and use it on all my videos, and it’s not going anywhere. Despite its many flaws, this mellophonium is still my desert island horn. I will always love it.
Holton M602 - The M602 was Holton’s second mellophonium model, after the more traditionally-designed M601. Holton marketed the M602 as a “marching mellophonium”, and it really does feel like an instrument that pulls from both mellophoniums and marching mellophones, which were both around at the time. It has the sound and feel of a mellophonium, but with the bore and ergonomics of a marching mellophone. In some ways it’s the best of both worlds, and it really does have a special sound. It is darker than the Conn 16E and perfect for smoky jazz. Do I need a darker mellophonium? Not really…but this is one of those instruments that I want to hold on to, and it’s not worth enough to be worth the effort of selling anyway. So this one is probably staying with me. <3
Nirschl E102SP - This rare mellophone is the worst mellophone I’ve ever owned. It is so bad it may even be worse than the abysmal Getzen frumpet. Seriously…don’t buy one.
Yamaha YMP-201M - This was my first marching mellophone, acquired in 2022 after over a decade of owning pretty much every other variation of mellophone out there. It was a pretty good instrument, and I used it a fair bit before acquiring my King 1120. The reason I ultimately bought the 1120 and sold the 201M was because the 201M felt very tight and unforgiving to play, and I got tired of dealing with that quickly. It’s a shame because it had a lovely sound that, in some ways, was better than the newer models. But ultimately, there are good reasons why the 201M became the 204M.
Yamaha YMP-201 - The YMP-201 (no M) was the first Yamaha mellophone. It also has the distinction of being the last circular mellophone design, and is arguably the only one that really feels like a modern instrument. It was designed for use in Japanese school bands in the late 1980s, as a cheaper alternative to the French horn (which was prohibitively expensive in Japan at the time). It really plays fantastically well and is a beautifully simple and functional design. However, using the 201 in a big band exposed the circular mellophone’s greatest disadvantage: the downward-pointing bell made it impossible to hear myself at all. This combined with the terrible ergonomics that every circular mellophone (including the 201) has made me realize that I just didn’t want to deal with the severe disadvantages the design brings, and soon after I sold all of my circular mellophones including the 201. But funnily enough, I traded the 201 to my repair tech for a German trombone, and he in turn took the 201 and straightened the bell, turning the instrument into a mellophonium. And now…I also want to do that.
1925 Buescher 25 True Tone - This circular mellophone (in F) has two rotary change valves. One puts the instrument in Eb, the other puts it in D, and both together put it in C. Despite this 25 having worn-out valves consistent with an instrument this old, it was still a great player with a gorgeous, velvety sound - much darker than any of my other circular mellophones. It played well in all 4 keys, and had a unique sound in each.
1930 Conn 8E - The Conn 8E is a ballad horn in C and B-flat. While some ballad horns from the era were more like circular tenor flugelhorns, the 8E was a circular mellophone crooked in C by default with a slide to B-flat - essentially, a tenor mellophone. I enjoyed playing it, and the slanted valves did a lot to improve the usually-terrible circular mellophone ergonomics. It wasn’t the easiest instrument to play, as it felt pretty different from most other instruments (even other circular mellophones in higher keys). But after a short adjustment period each time I picked it up, I found myself unable to put it down. It felt, played, and sounded like an extra-large-bore single C or Bb horn, which I suppose isn’t far off from what it was. A ballad horn, and in particular a Conn 8E, was one of those instruments that I dreamed of playing but never thought I would even get to see one, let alone own one considering the collector prices they usually go for. But one day on eBay, there it was at a shockingly affordable price. When I owned this it was the crown jewel of my collection, and every time I showed it to someone I had a silly grin on my face. I couldn’t hide my passion for this instrument. I didn’t think I would ever sell it, but my brief flirtation with being a collector (at the time I owned 8 mellophones…) eventually wore thin. I’ve never really been a collector, as I hate having instruments I never use. So I eventually let the 8E go. I don’t regret selling it, but I do look back on my time with it fondly.
1918 Conn 6E - This E-flat only mellophone was marketed as a “French horn alto”, in reference to its wider, horn-like wrap compared to the more tightly-wrapped Conn 4E. But it was all mellophone, and also the same exact design as the 8E ballad horn above, just in E-flat instead of C. This instrument had a more familiar feel, and had a gorgeous, colorful sound - probably my favorite sound out of all the circular mellophones I’ve owned. But the valves were worn and I just didn’t need it (like all the other circular mellophones), so off it went.
Alto & Soprano Trombones
Conn 36H alto trombone with C valve - The Conn 36H usually has a Bb attachment, but this one has had the attachment tubing cut to C. I’m not actually sure if the rotor is the stock Conn rotor or not, but in any case, this alto trombone plays wonderfully. The C attachment really makes perfect sense on an alto trombone - to me trill valves are gimmicks, and you really don’t need a Bb attachment when alto trombone repertoire never goes below low A. The C attachment is the most practical tuning for an alto trombone valve that I’ve encountered, and the alto it’s attached to is addicting to play.
Unmarked German soprano trombone - This is undoubtedly one of the coolest brass instruments I’ve owned. This unmarked instrument was likely an exam instrument made by a German brass-making apprentice, and is handmade and the highest quality. It has an old-school leather strap to activate the valve, 4 different slides for the valve that allowed you to tune the valve to A, Ab, G, Gb (via pull), or F, a nickel bell kranz, and about 5 positions on the slide. This instrument is likely the only one of this specific design in the world. With the right mouthpiece it had a real trombone sound, and it was a great player. I sold it because I had no real use for a soprano trombone…and because I got GOOD money for it.
Selman 11303N alto trombone - Somehow this is the only picture I could dig up of this basic nickel-plated Jinbao clone of a K&H Slokar alto trombone. These Chinese Slokar clones used to be EVERYWHERE, as they were the only option for an affordable alto trombone to learn on. Nowadays quite a few retailers who used to stock the Slokar clone no longer do, and there are other cheap Chinese options now. But back in grad school when I owned this, it was this or pay big bucks for a “real” alto. While it obviously was far from perfect, the Selman was good enough to learn on and play the occasional gig with. For the price, I really had no complaints.
Tenor Trombones
1970 King 3B - This is my workhorse tenor trombone, and has been since I bought it in 2015. It sounds great, plays great, can cut through anything, will work with any mouthpiece, and can fit in any style. The 3B is one of the most versatile trombones ever made, especially with an F attachment, and though I have played hundreds of amazing small bore trombones over the years, I have yet to find a reason to switch.
1970 King 3BF - I got this instrument years after the 3B above, but it plays EXACTLY the same. The valve really makes no noticeable difference to the sound or feel. It’s been really nice to have the option of valve or no valve depending on the gig, and I have used this 3BF a ton. However, I don’t REALLY need two trombones that play the same, so it is currently in the shop along with two King 607s below having mad science done to it.
1967 King 607 - The 607 is marketed as an “intermediate” trombone, but in reality it is a King 3BF with a straight bell brace and a yellow brass .525” slide. The result is an instrument that plays the same as my 3B and 3BF, just a little bigger. It has a monstrous low register in exchange for a high register that’s only slightly more difficult than on the 3B/3BF. It also happens to record the best out of any of my trombones - on a mic, the 607 punches WAY above its weight. I’ve used this trombone a lot, and it is about to get even better (see above).
1982 King 3B+F - The 3B+F is the real deal .525” 3BF - no sheep’s clothing like the 607. It has a proper nickel slide like the 3B, a gold brass bell, and the signature curved bell brace. I acquired this one recently, and it is quite different than the three Kings above. It plays much more “legit” - it feels like it would be more at home playing principal trombone in an orchestra than playing anything commercial. I’m not sure what I will do with this one yet, but it’s definitely a nice player.
1976 King 605F - The 605F is not the same beast as all the 3Bs or 3B-based trombones above. It is truly a student-level instrument, and is just the garden variety Cleveland 605 with an F attachment. This means it has a .491” bore and a student-grade slide and bell. It is nowhere near the quality of the Kings above, but it is fairly rare and interesting for being such a small bore with an F valve. However, I really only bought this (on eBay for cheap, naturally) to use as a parts horn for an alto trombone project, which is ongoing.
2023 Y-Fort YSL-763L - This is my main large bore tenor, which I use for all classical tenor gigs. It is a fabulous horn that I bought straight from the booth at NAMM. It eliminates a lot of the headaches I usually have with large bore trombones, and just works everywhere, no matter how long it’s been since you’ve played it - just like my small bore and bass trombones do. I replaced an excellent Elkhart 88H with this, and I couldn’t be happier.
Early (1990s) Willson 411TA with G valve - This large tenor trombone is extensively different than the standard 411TA you can order from Willson. The most obvious difference is that the valve attachment is in G rather than the usual F, but additionally the valve is an ULTRA rotor (instead of a Rotax), the attachment tubing matches the slide tubing at .547”, and the slide has a Saturn water key. This is a great-playing instrument with a dense, colorful sound, and the G valve allows for much more fluid slide movements in the middle and low registers.
Bach 42G with G valve - This is another G valve conversion like the Willson above. It too has an ULTRA rotor, and the valve tubing is the more typical .562”. The handslide is a lightweight nickel Edwards dual bore .547-562” slide, ensuring the lower slide bore matches that of the valve tubing. This is a nice playing example of a modern Bach 42, and the G tuning, ULTRA valve, and dual bore Edwards slide all work beautifully together.
Conn 88HT with G valve - This is yet another G valve conversion, with an ULTRA valve and .547-.562” handslide (in this case a Conn SL5462). It is a good player, but I like the Bach and especially the Willson more.
1962 Conn 88H - This Elkhart 88H was my large bore tenor for quite a few years, until it was replaced by the Y-Fort above. It had that magic Elkhart sound, and when you were in tune with the horn it was a wonderful player. But if you didn’t play the horn every day, it would really punish you. As someone who rarely gets called to play classical tenor, that meant the horn and I rarely agreed and it was often a struggle.
Yamaha YSL-682G - I bought this mainly out of curiosity, and I learned that it was a solid, dependable large bore with a pleasant sound and no surprises. Nothing super inspiring, but a great workhorse large tenor. If I had still been on my 88H when I bought the 682G, I would have replaced the 88H with the 682G without hesitation. But since I had the Y-Fort, I had no use for the 682G and it was gone quickly.
Unmarked German quartposaune - This German trombone was really in project condition when I got it, but I still used it on a few gigs and a multitrack in spite of that. It had a beautiful dark German sound unlike any other trombone I owned, and sounded full and rich in all registers - a true tenor-bass trombone. However, I was totally unwilling to spend the money necessary to make it comfortable to use, so off it went.
Selmer Largo - The Selmer (Paris) Largo is a fairly rare and very French large bore tenor. It was my first large bore, and in hindsight I probably should have bought the world-beater Holton 156 that I also tried that day instead. But at the time, I was completely enchanted by the captivating, velvety sound of the Largo. It really did have a special sound, and would be fabulous as a classical trombone soloist’s instrument. But I am not a classical trombone soloist, and the totally alien intonation and bright sound made playing in ensembles a losing battle. I later acquired another Largo bell section with 9” bell and F-attachment, which helped somewhat, but was still not enough to offset the horn’s many quirks. So I sold the Largos, bought an Elkhart 88H (see above), and didn’t look back.
1965 Conn 77H Connquest - The 77H is an uncommon Conn model that was sold as an intermediate model, but is essentially a 6H with a half-inch smaller bell. My 77H (which came with a King Cleveland counterweight for some reason) was yet another cheap eBay acquisition to see if the 77H was a hidden gem. I concluded that while it was a nice player, it wasn’t for me as the 6H’s bigger bell is part of the recipe for why I love the 6H. So I sold it on.
1966 Holton 66 Galaxy - This is the first instrument I ever bought on eBay. I got it for $90 in high school, to use in the school jazz band. It was my only small bore trombone until I bought my King 3B after I graduated undergrad in 2015, and served me well. It had a very bright, cutting sound to match its all-nickel plate construction and .485-.500” dual bore, and was great for New Orleans/second line. But ultimately it was too small for me, and I was very happy to trade up to the 3B.
1940 Holton 63 - This is a rare Holton small bore model that I owned briefly during grad school. It was a nice player with a very pretty sound, but ultimately I concluded once again that it was too small for me, and sold it on.
Bass Trombones
1963 Conn 72H - This is my main bass trombone, and has been since I bought it in 2017. It has an independent valve set from what looks to be a Yamaha YBL-830, and I bought it in that configuration. I bought it after having used a stock single-valve Conn 72H bass trombone as my only bass trombone for awhile, so it was the perfect upgrade. This bass trombone is a wonderful instrument that can go toe-to-toe with anything out there. I have played dozens of world-class bass trombones and have yet to play any that I would replace this 72H with.
1964 King 1480 Symphony - While some people think of the King 1480 as a large tenor, it is really a small bass trombone, and Bart Varselona played bass trombone in the Kenton orchestra on one. This is actually the second 1480 I’ve owned, and it is a great instrument with a beefy yet compact bass trombone sound. Sadly I have yet to have an opportunity to use it, but I’m hoping that opportunity comes before I decide to sell it!
1939 Boosey & Hawkes Artist’s Perfected - This is a traditional small-bore (.484”) British bass trombone in G. It has a full-length slide with handle, no leadpipe, and all the bark the G bass trombone is famous for. Unfortunately, the handslide is currently barely usable, but I hope to rectify that and eventually add a valve or two, because the sound is worth it.
1937 Julius Rudolph F bass trombone - This is the other side of the long bass trombone coin - a heavy German Kirchenposaune in F. It has a massive bell throat and the biggest difference in bores between the upper and lower slides I’ve ever seen - .510-.590”! Despite being designed as a bass trombone, it has an enormous sound that sounds as broad and powerful as a modern contrabass trombone to my ears. It is currently in need of a new slide handle, but thankfully the slide itself has good action.
196x Conn 72H - This is the stock (apart from the valve slide stopper, which I never used) single-valve 72H I was playing on when I found the double-valve 72H. This came with a modern Conn SL6262 slide when I bought it, which really wasn’t a match for the bell as it was too short, but I made it work. Once I got the double 72H, I sold the SL6262 and just swapped single and double bell sections with the proper 72H slide. I kept that up for awhile, but eventually sold the single valve bell section as it didn’t provide a big enough difference in sound compared to the double valve section to be worth keeping around.
1972 Olds S24G - The Olds S24G was the first production independent bass trombone in history, and this one came to me with these modified open wraps. It was a great player, with a dense, colorful sound that I really loved. Unfortunately, the small rotors made the trigger register stuffy, and the trigger paddles were the most uncomfortable setup I have ever tried on a bass trombone - my left hand would be in pain within 30 seconds. If I had had a boatload of spare cash at the time, I might have had new valves and linkages put on it and had a world-beater. But I also still liked my indy 72H more, so I sold it.
2006 Getzen 1052FD - This was my first bass trombone, and it took me all the way through my undergrad. It was a great first bass trombone, made even better when I eventually got a BrassArk leadpipe for it.
1960 King 1480 Symphony - This was my first King 1480, which I owned many years before I got my current one. Note the different F wrap compared to the 1964 model.
Valve Trombones
1985 King 1130 flugabone - This is the classic flugabone, and the model that coined the term. I got this on eBay for a whopping $67 years ago - no small feat considering the prices they go for nowadays. I have owned other flugabones, but the King is the one I kept. It has a shouty sound and is much louder than the Olds design, both of which are advantages for the situations I use it in (mainly cumbia). I’d love to get another one and cut it to C.
Jupiter JVT-528 - A bog standard Bb valve trombone. It has great valves and a nice sound, and is a fun player.
Blessing Artist M-200 flugabone - This flugabone is the same basic design as the Olds O-21, an instrument I briefly trialed but didn’t buy. The two are similar, though the Olds is more suited to classical flugabone playing (if such a thing existed) while the Blessing is more suited to smoky jazz flugabone playing (something that can actually exist in specific situations, including the quiet jazz trio gigs I used the Blessing on when I had it). Both cannot match the projection of the King 1130, but are great players in their own right. I enjoyed owning and playing the Blessing M-200, but ultimately it was destined to lose to the King.
1940 King 1140 trombonium - This is the original trombonium, and the same one that J.J. Johnson and Kai Winding played on occasion. I bought it out of curiosity, but I was not prepared for just how good this instrument is. Seriously, the 1140 blew even the King flugabone out of the water in both sound and playability. It was an excellent instrument and great fun to play. However, I could not get past the bad ergonomics, hugely inconvenient form factor, and awful factory case (with no available aftermarket replacements), so I made the tough call to sell it.
Baritones
Jinbao JBBR-1240 - This British-style baritone horn is one that I had tried many times at conventions before buying one. I have tried all the big name baritones - Besson Prestige, Besson Sovereign, Yamaha Neo, etc…and this little Jinbao (I think a Sovereign clone?) is as good or better than all of them. So when this one showed up on eBay for cheap, I was quick to snap it up. I have used it quite a bit since then, and it still impresses as much as it first did.
Blessing Artist M-300 - This is the same model of marching baritone that I used in high school marching band. My high school had a couple of these old Blessings, and a few newer Kings. The Blessings were traditionally given to the freshmen, while the upperclassmen got the shiny Kings. But I quickly found that not only did the Blessings play better than the Kings, they were genuinely good instruments in their own right and not just by marching band standards. When I eventually became section leader, I assigned myself a Blessing while everyone else got the Kings. I liked it enough that I tried to buy mine from my band director when I graduated, but she wasn’t allowed to sell it to me. 13 years later, I finally have my own Blessing M-300, and this one is sticking with me.
Euphoniums & Tubas
Schiller Elite IV - This is yet another weirdly-great Chinese clone - in this case a clone of the Yamaha YEP-642. I actually replaced a Sterling Virtuoso with this, because it was more consistent between registers and because I could no longer justify owning a fancy $3k+ euphonium when it never leaves the house. Such is the plight of most euphonium players in the world. But this Jinbao model is hardly a bad instrument - it is a good euphonium by any standard. Would I like to have a nicer euphonium? Of course, but how could I justify it?
V.F. Cerveny Eb althorn - This althorn is essentially an alto tuba, and sounds like it. It makes a very dark, euphonium-like sound, but in the alto register. I eventually plan to either add valves or put on a totally new valveset to make it better, and maybe finally realize my dreams of having a 4+-valve alto euphonium.
2007 Sterling Virtuoso - This is a very early Sterling Virtuoso euphonium, and is one of the coolest-looking euphoniums I’ve ever seen. It played great, too - in the upper register it had the colorful, lyrical sound of a Besson, while in the middle and low register it had the broad, dark sound of Willson. It was an interesting combination, and a great overall result. But despite everything I just didn’t gel with this instrument, so I eventually replaced it.
2008 Kanstul 975 - This is a very early Kanstul 975 - likely a prototype. It was my first euphonium, and I had it for 11 years. It served me very well especially in my undergrad, and there was a lot to like about it. It remains the most comfortable euphonium to hold that I’ve ever played, which is a huge deal when most euphonium designs apparently don’t consider left-hand comfort at all. It had a nice sound somewhere in between the Besson and Willson extremes, and it had a monstrous low register. But it also had the usual intonation quirks present on every euphonium, and a few additional quirks not present on others. The worst one was that F in the staff was very sharp played open, so you had to play it with the 4th valve, which changed the sound a lot. It also had very heavy pistons, which were hard on the fingers when played for long periods. It was those two quirks that were the primary motivation for me to find a replacement after 11 years, and the 975 was eventually sold to a local high school band program.
Pelisson bass saxhorn in C - This early-20th century French bass saxhorn had a lean, compact euphonium sound. Being in C meant it was a pretty different experience from playing euphonium, which I liked. However, the valves were totally worn out and it really needed a restoration to be worth keeping, so I sold it on.
Boosey & Hawkes Imperial Eb tuba - This is a classic 15” bell British compensating Eb tuba. It had a sweet sound and was essentially a big euphonium, which was exactly what I wanted. Unfortunately, it didn’t stick around too long for three important reasons. First, the pistons were totally worn out and the instrument really needed a total restoration to be usable. Second, I pretty much never used it. And finally, I lived in an absolutely TINY bedroom at the time, and a massive tuba that I never used was the last thing I needed. It was a very easy decision to sell it. Nowadays I have a lot more space and would love to own a tuba again, but the cost of a good one is very prohibitive.
INSTRUMENTS I HAVE YET TO OWN, BUT PLAN TO
(IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER)
British tenor horn
F contrabass trombone (American tuning)
F cimbasso
Alto, tenor, and bass sackbuts
A good tuba in good shape (big Eb or small C/Bb)
Kanstul KMB-180 G mellophone bugle (early pattern)
Kanstul KMM-280 F marching mellophone (early pattern)
Contrabass trumpet (probably made from parts)
Eb soprano flugelhorn
C cornet
Eb cornet
Conn 6H (Elkhart) tenor trombone
F alto trombone
Natural horn
Double descant horn
Bb and/or C rotary trumpets
Pro-model British cornet
4-valve flugelhorn
Sousaphone
Alexander 103 double horn
Rotary circular alto horn
Mayyyyyyyyyyybe a cheap rotary piccolo trumpet??
Alto Flugelhorn
There are alto trumpets, alto cornets, alto bugles, and of course alto horns, along with many other alto-voice brass instruments that have more interesting names. But what about an alto flugelhorn? This would be an instrument a 4th or 5th below the standard flugelhorn, still with a flugelhorn bore profile. This instrument does exist, but it’s not very common. It’s even rarer than alto trumpet or alto cornet, but it seems to bring more to the table than either of those do.
Here’s my alto flugelhorn - an “Elkhart”-stenciled Couesnon alto flugelhorn in F or E-flat:
This instrument has a gorgeous low flugelhorn sound that matches my Couesnon flugelhorn very well. In my opinion the sound is so purely flugelhorn that if someone heard an audio sample without knowing what instrument was playing, I’m guessing most brass players would immediately guess a 4-valve flugelhorn or maybe some other kind of flugelhorn. It does have a subtle hint of euphonium to the sound as well.
This alto flugelhorn plays just as well as my fabulous pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn, and is much easier to play than most other bell-front alto brass instruments that I’ve owned and played. It’s wonderful, and the sound is creamy smooth.
These Couesnon alto flugels used to grow on trees on eBay, but in the past decade or so they sort of disappeared. I was surprised when this one showed up, and this time I didn’t let it pass me by. I enjoyed owning it and used it on my 2023 Christmas multitrack, but I no longer own it. First, I realized that my Kanstul 275 marching alto was actually better at being an alto flugelhorn than this actual alto flugelhorn…and then I realized that I didn’t even need that as my Holton M602 mellophonium is equally as good at being an alto flugelhorn as the Kanstul 275, while also having much more character. So off both went.
I have owned an alto trumpet, alto cornet, alto flugelhorn, and 2 alto bugles, but sadly none at the same time (so no back-to-back demos). But this alto flugelhorn sounded VERY different than the alto cornet did. It had that velvety flugelhorn darkness that the alto cornet just didn’t have, much more like the Dynasty III alto bugle in G (which is essentially an extra-large G flugelhorn).
Here’s a quick back-to-back comparison I did of my Couesnon flugelhorn and the Elkhart (Couesnon) alto flugelhorn. Hopefully, despite the phone microphone, you can hear the subtleties in each instrument’s sound.
Lastly, here are some photos of other types of alto flugelhorn out there. Most are in E-flat, which makes sense as the even rarer soprano flugelhorn is also in E-flat.
B-flat Tenor Brass: What's the Difference?
Bass trumpets. Flugabones. Trombones in various bore sizes. Baritones in various shapes and sizes. Euphoniums. There are so many different kinds of 9-foot B-flat brass instruments that broadly function in the tenor register, so how do you justify them all?
Easy: they all sound different! Admittedly sometimes the differences are small, but the differences ARE there. Each was designed for a different purpose, but how do they compare when you put them head to head? Time to find out!
What follows is a cornucopia of audio files from various 9-foot instruments that I owned or had access to long enough to sit down and record for a while. This is by no means complete yet; I have a bunch more instruments and instrument/mouthpiece combinations to record, and I will continue adding to this as I gain access to different instruments. It is a forever work in progress, but hopefully before long it will be a comprehensive archive of most of the B-flat low brass out there. I may add tenor brass in other keys as well, but I’ll have to rework the excerpts to accommodate their ranges.
For now, let’s take a brief look at the instruments I’ll be demoing.
1973 King 3B tenor trombone (.508” bore)
This is my main gigging commercial tenor trombone. It is extremely versatile, equally at home knocking down buildings on a funk or salsa gig or playing in a brass quintet. I use two mouthpieces with this instrument - a Warburton 8S/4* (very shallow lead mouthpiece) and a Hammond 11M (normal-depth V-cup general purpose mouthpiece).
1979 Conn 5H tenor trombone (.500” bore)
This is an Abilene Conn 5H, which is a lightened 6H. It tends to have a bright sound with lots of core, great for pop work. It doesn’t like my Hammond 11M, so I use it only with my shallow Warburton 8S/4* (which it likes very much).
1984 King 1130 flugabone (.500” bore)
The source of the word “flugabone”, and a very good player. I’ve gigged on this a ton and its shouty sound is a great asset to have. Gotta be careful with mouthpiece choice though!
1973 Olds O-21 flugabone (.515” bore)
Another flugabone (or “marching trombone” in Olds-speak) that feels more refined and restrained than the King 1130. The better choice for classical flugabone playing (???) and jazz combo work.
Josef Lidl rotary Bb bass trumpet (~.440” bore)
An old-school bass trumpet with a very small bore, that makes up for its difficulty with its piercing trumpet sound.
Blessing Artist M-300 marching baritone (.562” bore)
An older model of marching baritone that plays very well with a nice, colorful sound. I used this model baritone in high school marching band! This model also has a Bauerfiend valve set for some reason???
The Excerpts
I’ve prepared five contrasting excerpts to showcase the differences in all the instruments that will be playing them. (And by “prepared”, I mean “improvised on the spot when recording the first instrument”.) They are all very short, but give some good information. All instruments were recorded close-mic’d into my Cascade Fat Head ribbon microphone. I generally left intonation foibles in rather than re-taking until it was perfect, as tricky intonation is an important part of playing each instrument.
First up is a short marcato excerpt with 3 parts. I divided up the takes into 1 part solo, 3 parts (1 on a part), and 3 parts tripled (3 on a part).
Solo first:
3 parts (1 on a part, no doublings):
3 parts tripled (3 on a part) and panned to simulate a large section:
The next excerpt is a very short, softer triadic statement that starts high and ends low. As with the last excerpt, this one has 3 parts and was recorded the same 3 ways.
Solo first:
3 parts (1 on a part, no doublings):
3 parts tripled (3 on a part) and panned to simulate a large section:
The next excerpt is quick, high, and loud. 3 parts, nothing else. Very simple.
This one is a brief jazz excerpt in a typical 4-part big band trombone section style.
The last excerpt is a short 4-part chorale on the softer side. Starting with just the 4 parts, we’ll go through some fun variations later.
4 parts, no doubling:
The same stems as above, but this time drenched in some nice reverb:
This time each of the 4 parts is doubled, making for 8 total players.
Now we take the doubled parts and bring the reverb back.
Just for fun, after I finished recording the first 6 instruments, I unmuted all tracks on the chorale and exported that result too. This makes 48 players on 4 parts - 12 on a part, 2 per instrument. Just in case you ever wanted to know what a massed choir of bass trumpets, trombones, flugabones, and marching baritones sounded like.
Finally, I thought the massed chorale sounded so good that I decided to try pitch shifting the whole thing to see how it would sound in different ranges. I started by pitching down, but I was not prepared for the heavenly trumpet sound I got when I pitched up!
That’s all for now. As mentioned at the top of the post, there are still more instruments to record. At the very least, I have 4 trombones, possibly a bass trombone or 3, British baritone horn, and euphonium to add to the pile. In time!
In the mean time, if you’re interested in more comparisons, I uploaded some quick phone mic comparisons of some of these instruments on YouTube a few days ago.
Brass Instruments That Don't Exist (But Should)
It goes without saying (especially on this particular website) that there are a lot of brass instruments out there. Some probably shouldn’t exist, and others are probably not distinct enough to really deserve their own name. But they exist nonetheless, and going down the rabbit hole to discover and make sense of all of them is an endeavor that takes years.
But even though the concept of a mouthpiece attached to a metal cone has been tried hundreds or even thousands of ways, I believe we have not explored all that is possible in the brasswind medium. More to the point, I believe there are some brass instruments that should exist…but don’t. That’s what I’m going to discuss here, and hopefully inspire intrepid makers to make them a reality. (I can dream, ok?) Naturally, these are just my personal opinions, and if you have a different idea of a non-existent brass instrument that you wish was less non-existent, I’d love to hear about it.
Alto Euphonium
This might be the instrument I wish existed the most - a true F or E-flat alto tuba in the British euphonium style, with 3+1 compensating valves, a much larger bore and bell throat than an alto horn, and a small trombone mouthpiece shank. Technically, an alto euphonium does exist: the Yamaha YEH-901ST, which was made in a very limited (14 or 15) run in 1984-85 for Yamaha artists. It only had 3 valves, none of them have ever been for sale, and Yamaha no longer has the tooling to make any more. So although it technically does exist, practically speaking it might as well not. But this is the idea.
I plan to get an alto euphonium custom made for me from parts, as I really believe in its potential. Hopefully that project might inspire makers to give the concept a try. If my alto euphonium project is successful, I may then think about trying a soprano euphonium as well.
(Compensating) Euphonium in C
A similar (but less radical) instrument I’d like to see more of is a professional compensating euphonium in C. This did exist as the Besson BE765C, a special order instrument available until the company moved to Germany in 2006. That tooling is also likely long gone, and the picture below is the only evidence I have ever seen of the model. I can’t imagine more than a handful were ever made.
C euphoniums do exist and are used in some parts of the world, but apart from the Besson above there are none that I know of that are British-style professional instruments. C tubas are a standard for orchestral tubists…I see no reason why a British-style compensating euphonium in C couldn’t also have merit, especially as a doubling instrument for tubists used to C fingerings.
6/4 American-Style Tenor Tuba
There have been some extra-large compensating euphoniums in the past, but what I’m proposing goes a step further. Massive 6/4 York-style C tubas are very much in vogue…why not try that same blueprint an octave up? Give it 4 front-action pistons with a 5th rotor and orchestral tuba players will flock to it as a doubling instrument even more than the C compensating euphonium mentioned above.
Bass Euphonium
I know what you’re thinking: “Isn’t a bass euphonium just an F tuba?” And I don’t blame you for thinking that, especially when small bell British F and Eb tubas that look and sound like big euphoniums exist. But my thought for an instrument called “bass euphonium” would be to take the dimensions of a modern compensating euphonium (.590” starting bore size) and use them to build an instrument in low G. The goal is an instrument somewhere in between a euphonium and bass tuba in sound. I will admit, this one isn’t that important to me, but I think it would be an interesting experiment. I have seen a few very small bass tubas for sale that have seemed like really good candidates to cut down into a bass euphonium. I’ve even seen a piston F tuba with a 12-inch bell!
Soprano Mellophone/Mellophonium
A soprano mellophone in high B-flat is something I’ve wanted for a long time. A couple have been cobbled together from parts using trombone bells (see the above picture), but that’s not really the real deal. I’m talking new mandrels and tapers that match a modern mellophone, just a scaled down for an instrument a 4th higher. I would suggest still using a trumpet shank and the same bore size as an F mellophone, as you still want it to feel like a mellophone. Truthfully, I would love a soprano mellophonium with a .500” bore, the same as the Conn 16E mellophonium. But as no maker makes a bell-front mellophone that large anymore, you’d have to do that first and then make the high Bb version. Which…I would also welcome with open arms. I love my 16E, but that design leaves a ton of room for improvement by a modern maker.
Lower Mellophones
If the mellophone formula can be expanded upwards, why not downwards as well? I used to own a Conn 8E ballad horn from 1930, which is essentially a tenor mellophone in C or B-flat. But (to my knowledge) a modern bell-front tenor mellophone is not something that anyone has ever attempted. I even think a bass mellophone in F (an octave below the standard mellophone) would have a lot of potential.
I have been fascinated by the idea of a complete mellophone or mellophonium family for a long time, and even drew freehand sketches of what I would imagine some of the non-existent members could look like.
A Real Bass Horn
I’m not talking about the “bass horns” out there that are basically just rewrapped tubas. I’m talking about a proper double horn a 4th or 5th below a normal double horn, with a small bore proportionate to that of a normal horn, playable by a horn player or trombone/euphonium player, with a dedicated mouthpiece that’s a deep horn mouthpiece scaled up to around big alto horn (~19mm) or small trombone size. Much like modern descant horns usually use the same bells as double horns, the bass horn could use standard XL-throat double horn bells, like those from a Conn 8D or King Eroica.
Endangered Instruments
This category is for instruments that do exist, and you can even order them in some cases, but they are FAR too rare - often nearly impossible to find and/or prohibitively expensive. These are instruments that I would like to see someone step up and make more widely available. I think rare, odd instruments like these are the perfect specimens for Jinbao/Wessex/etc. to take on. They’ll be playable enough, but also affordable enough that many players can try them out, and maybe get a boutique maker to make them a better one if they like it enough. If you start with the ultra-expensive handmade custom horns, nobody will ever buy one and the market won’t materialize. But if you start cheap, it just might. Certainly, these instruments would make more sense and have more merit than some of the odd instruments Jinbao has chosen to clone.
Soprano flugelhorn (they are always in Eb, but I would love one in F as well)
Flugelhorn in C (with pistons and a 3rd slide trigger, just like a normal flugelhorn)
Martin-style jazz flugelhorn (the Miles Davis horn)
Alto flugelhorn (G, F, or Eb, a la the Couesnon)
Alto cornet (G, F, or Eb, a la the DEG model 1220)
Alto trumpet (G, F, or Eb)
Bass cornet (C or Bb)
Double trumpets (Bb/low F, Bb/high Eb, C/high F)
High F and G trumpets, especially with 4 valves
4-valve C and Bb trumpets
3-valve Bach-style piston bass trumpet in C (with main tuning trigger)
Contrabass trumpet (F or Eb)
British-style alto horn with 4 valves (most recent example: Kanstul ZAT-1540)
British-style 3+1 compensating baritone horn
Double bell alto horns, baritone horns, and tubas
British-style 3+2 non-compensating euphonium
Large bore (.500") soprano trombone (with valve and tuning-in-slide)
Large bore (.547”) alto trombone (with Bb valve, possibly tuning-in-slide)
Alto trombone in F
Alto valve trombone (F or Eb)
Large bore, bell-up trombonium (a la Conn 90G)
Bass trombonium (3 valves, in low F or E-flat)
Sopranino trombone in Eb
Tenor trombone in C
Tenor or bass trombone in Bb/F/ascending C
Double valve (Bb/F/Gb) tenor trombone (in .508”, .525”, and .547”)
Modern bass trombones in low G or F (hey pBone, please make a straight F bass. I’d love you forever)
G contrabass trombone (a la Jeff Reynolds)
Tuba-shaped F cimbasso (a la Kalison)
Tubas in G and D (G = shortened small F, D = shortened 4/4 rotary C)
Valved ophicleide (I would LOVE to try an F bass valved ophicleide in a brass quintet)
French ascending piston double horn (a la Selmer Thevet Ascendant)
Ascending double horns in general
Bass Vienna horn (F/C)
Other Pie-in-the-Sky Ideas (that I’m not actively hoping for, but would be fun)
Alto superbone
A superbone with 2 valves and a 4-position handslide, requiring you to use both in tandem constantly to play chromatically
New sizes of corno da tirarsi (slide horn), and corni da tirarsi with a valve or two
New sizes of Wagner tuba (alto in Eb, contrabass in C, high double in Eb/Bb, low double in F/C)
French ascending piston triple horn and double descant horn
Soprano trombones in G and C
Soprano valve trombone (in a shape and taper that distinguishes it from a trumpet)
3 and 4 valve trumpets (not alto trumpets, or soprano bugles) in G
Contrabass cornet in F or G
4-valve compensating flugelhorn
Tubas/euphs/baritones/tenor horns/cimbassos with echo bells (like an echo cornet)
A Bb contrabass trombone that doesn’t suck (the most unrealistic idea here)
G Bugles
If you’ve been wandering around my website and have noticed a fair bit of content regarding a bunch of weird bugles in G and want to know what that’s about, if you’re interested in G bugles and want to know which ones could be the most useful, or if you’re deep into the G bugle game and you just want to consume as much G bugle content as possible, this article is for you.
I’ll start with a very brief history lesson and a definition of what exactly a G “bugle” really is.
Civilian drum and bugle corps in the United States began after World War I, initially using actual valveless military bugles for the brass line. Eventually they started adding valves to the bugles, which were only allowed to be in the key of G. First came a single horizontal piston, then 1 piston and 1 rotor, 2 pistons, and finally 3 pistons. Each change came after a long and laborious process of arguing for and against The Tradition™, a drum corps pastime that continues to this day.
Along with valves, new brass voices were gradually added to the allowed instrumentation, and while many of them were not at all bugles, they were still called bugles. (For this reason I like referring to the “family” as a whole as competition bugles, rather than just bugles.) This resulted in fun names like “French horn bugle” and “trombonium bugle” that sound like they came from a Dr. Seuss book. Weird naming scheme aside, drum corps instrumentation was rife with experimentation until the year 2000, when the rules were changed to allow brass instruments in any key, instead of just G.
Drum corps is a pretty insular activity, and as a result most brass players who aren’t into drum corps don’t know much (if at all) about the G bugles. I myself never marched, and so my main interest in G bugles has always been “which of these instruments is useful outside of drum corps?”, and that’s mainly what this article is about. I have been fortunate to own a smattering of ultra-cool, ultra-rare G bugles in the past few years, and have used a few of them in very not-drum-corps environments, so I feel like I can answer that question pretty well at this point. If you are a G bugle collector, this information and advice probably does not apply to you. Let’s dive in!
Soprano Bugle
The soprano bugle was the top voice of the G hornline. These are essentially trumpets in G with an extra large bore and bell throat, and they are SCREAMERS. If that sounds appealing, you would probably enjoy a 2-valve soprano. The 2 valve horns are extremely light and extremely free-blowing, and if you’re playing screamer parts you don’t need the 3rd valve. Look for a King K-20 or Dynasty II.
However, I believe the soprano bugle’s real niche outside of drum corps is the LOW notes. Put an extra-large mouthpiece into a 3-valve soprano and you have an excellent G alto trumpet. With the huge scarcity of real alto trumpets in F or E-flat, a 3-valve G soprano bugle (which you can easily pick up online for around $200) is a legitimately useful tool for a trumpet player, or an interesting left-field choice for someone looking to add a high brass instrument to their stable.
While I would definitely recommend holding out for a 3-valve for the reasons above, an ultra-cheap 2-valve soprano is not a bad pickup either. It is fully chromatic at sounding E4 and above, which can still be useful (especially if you already have a trumpet). Just don’t spend very much!
Piccolo Soprano Bugle
These are an octave above the G soprano bugle, and are very rare. Almost all of them have two valves, making them chromatic only down to sounding E5. An interesting curiosity yet ultimately not worth looking for, especially as if one does show up for sale it will not be cheap.
Flugelhorn Bugle
Flugel bugles are not a common type of bugle, but they did see quite a bit of use in the 2-valve era. As the flugelhorn’s strength is the middle register and not the high register, I tend to think 2-valve flugel bugles are not very useful. That said, if you really want a flugelhorn and can’t find a dirt cheap one in Bb, a 2-valve G flugel bugle might be your cheapest way into a playable, nice-sounding flugelhorn. Do not show up to any kind of gig with one, but for home use and multitracking it can be a great option for the right price (no more than $200). You get the same lowest note (sounding E3) as a Bb flugel and just have 4 missing notes (Ab3-Bb3, Eb4) above that, but if you have any other mellow alto instruments that’s easy to write around. For 2-valve flugel bugles, look for the King K-30 or Dynasty II.
As for 3-valve flugelhorn bugles, they barely exist. Dynasty had one model, but it’s just a Signature 2000 Bb flugel with tubing added, which is not a good recipe. Kanstul did make at least one, but it was not a standard part of their catalog. Yamaha made a full set for the Blue Devils in 1992, but they were just modified Bb flugels. If you want a 3-valve flugel-like instrument, look to the alto bugle instead.
Alto Bugle
The alto bugle is usually a mellophone with a smaller bell, but the older ones (particularly the 2-valve Dynasty II Alto/Symphonic or the impossibly rare Dynasty III 3-valve version) are essentially big flugelhorns in G. A bit more horn-like when pushed, but otherwise all flugel. However, as the 2-valve is missing the same notes as a 2-valve flugel bugle (and is very rare), and the 3-valve I used to own is the only example I’ve seen of that model ever existing, these older (1970s) Dynasty alto bugles are not something to bet on.
The more common smaller bell mellophone type (King K-40 2-valve, Kanstul 175, later Dynasty II, later mellophone-wrap Dynasty III), is an interesting beast. With an alto horn mouthpiece, they sound like an even sweeter flugelhorn. However, they were usually designed around a marching mellophone mouthpiece, which means they can play far too flat to be usable when you use an alto horn mouthpiece. My early-pattern Kanstul KAB-175 was this way. I could only use a marching mellophone mouthpiece like it was designed for, and it played exceptionally well with that, but no longer sounded anything like a flugelhorn. Instead, the sound you get with that combination is more like a cross between mellophone and trumpet. It is certainly a unique and interesting sound, but not one that I would call useful. I’d love to hear it in a jazz combo or pop horn section, though.
Mellophone Bugle
The G mellophone bugle was originally inspired by the Conn 16E mellophoniums used in the Stan Kenton band, and the modern F marching mellophone was developed from the G mellophone bugle. With great F mellophones like the Yamaha YMP-204M readily available, is the G mellophone useful?
In my opinion, a G is useful only if you play a lot of screamer mellophone parts. I used to own a King K-50 2-valve G mellophone, the screamiest of all mellophones, and it was great fun to play screamer parts on. It is the sports car of the mellophone world. I eventually sold it because it didn’t offer enough of a difference from my other mellophones, but I had a ton of fun with it. If you can find a K-50 for a great price and want to give it a shot, I can guarantee you’ll have a great time with a K-50 or a 3-valve G mellophone (Dynasty or Kanstul) if you like playing very high on mellophone.
What I would not recommend is buying a G mellophone as your only mellophone. Get a good F marching mellophone, like a cheap King 1120 from eBay, so that you can have a workhorse that you can read existing mellophone or horn parts with. Then, if you want, pick up a G mellophone (2 or 3 valve) to add some more brightness and high note security to your mello arsenal.
Meehaphone
The meehaphone is the most famous of the weird and ultra-rare G bugles. Made for Kanstul for the Blue Devils in 1987, the meehaphone is essentially a bell-front descant horn in G with 2 valves. I was fortunate enough to own the only known meehaphone not in a museum for a while, and while it was very cool it was not very useful. The instrument’s forte is its middle register, with the high register being weak and unstable. But since it only has 2 valves, that middle register is only fully chromatic for less than an octave! A 3-valve meehaphone built from parts would be interesting, but if you’re doing that you’re in pretty deep.
French Horn Bugle
The French horn bugle was one of the standards of the DCI hornline in the 2-valve era, partly because it unlocked a lot of the missing pitches the mellophones had. Because it was built an octave lower than other mid-voice bugles, it was the only kind of bugle that really never needed 3 valves on the field. The lowest chromatic pitch (sounding E3) on a 2-valve “Frenchie” is far below what you would see in a typical drum corps French horn book.
However, because the French horn bugles were nearly as long as a single F horn, they were very easy to crack notes on while running across a football field. But are they useful off the field?
If you’re playing a live gig on multiple brass instruments where you are playing into a mic and need to cover some French horn parts, a marching horn is exactly what you need as the bell points the right way for the mic. But Bb marching horns exist and are plentiful, so why go for the G? Most of the time I would say you don’t need to, especially as 2-valve Gs don’t typically go for any cheaper than 3-valve King Bbs on eBay. However, the G really does sound very close to a concert horn, and the Bb is not as close. So if you want a really convincing horn sound for a mic placed in front of you, the G French horn bugle (King K-60, Dynasty II) could be your best bet.
While 2 valves is more than enough for field use, if you happen to come across one of the enormously rare 3-valve G French horn bugles (Kanstul KHB-185, Dynasty III) at a good price, that 3rd valve is obviously nice to have. That said, on the only gig I’ve had where I would have used my G French horn bugle if I had it at the time, I actually would have only needed 2 valves.
Low Alto Bugle
The low alto bugle is one of the oddest and rarest G bugles out there. It was made by Kanstul at the start of the short 3-valve era, and so few were made (6 total) that it didn’t even get a model number. It is essentially a Kanstul KHB-185 3-valve G French horn bugle with a trumpet shank, which sounds like it would just be a 185 but worse. However, the truth is much more interesting. Many kinds of mouthpieces will fit (trumpet, mellophone, alto horn, small trombone, French horn w/adapter), and the horn works very well with ALL of them. Each mouthpiece gives it a unique sound, like a cross between a French horn and whatever type of mouthpiece it is. Out of all the G bugles I’ve owned, the low alto might have the most potential. But since only 6 were made and at least 3 are spoken for, you’re very unlikely to come across one. If you want something like this, you might look into a Holton MH-100/101 Bb marching horn, which also has a trumpet leadpipe for some reason.
Trombonium Bugle
The award for the silliest name easily goes to the trombonium bugle, and it is also one of the silliest looking. It was made by Dynasty in 2 and 3 valve versions and small and large bells, and I can’t find any reason to recommend one over a normal Bb valve trombone or flugabone. They are also extremely rare, so you probably won’t have that choice to make anyway.
Cellophone
The cellophone is another impossibly rare G bugle. Essentially a Dynasty flugabone in G, only 4 2-valve models were made, all for the Phantom Regiment. However, 3-valve Dynasty III models were also made for the European market, but only 4 of those are known to exist. You’d have much better luck taking a Bb flugabone from King or Dynasty and lengthening it to G, or just playing a Bb flugabone.
Baritone Bugle
This is the low brass G bugle that you want. Originally called a “bass baritone” to distinguish it from the older and smaller type of baritone bugle, this kind of baritone bugle was the standard type of low brass in DCI hornlines from its inception until the end of the G bugles (at which point it was just replaced by the same thing in Bb). Most of them have 2 valves, and in my opinion they are not worth it for someone looking to use it in non-drum corps situations. You can get used Bb marching baritones very easily, and they will be much more useful. However, if you can find one of the much less common 3-valve G baritone bugles (Kanstul KBB-190, Dynasty III, Dynasty M371) for an affordable price, it can be an interesting purchase.
As your only low brass instrument for home use, the 3-valve G bari would be a nice option as it can play as high as a Bb instrument but can also play chromatically down to Db2. However, I would usually only recommend purchasing a G baritone as a second instrument to a Bb instrument (regardless of type), and it doesn’t bring THAT much new to the table. It has a nice fat sound that is different enough to a Bb marching baritone that it could be interesting to own both, but between baritone and euphonium I don’t think there’s much of a need for that G baritone sound. I think the most sensible use would be if you don’t want to put down the money for a 4-valve euphonium (and/or no $500 Yamaha YEP-321s are for sale at the time), but want something that can play lower than your 3-valve Bb instruments. But it would have to be a very good price on the G baritone, like $300 or less.
Euphonium Bugle
The G euphonium bugle is the baritone bugle’s big brother, and is one heavy beast. Pretty much everything I said about the baritone bugle above also applies to the G euph. I will say that Bb marching euphoniums are not nearly as common to find used for cheap as Bb marching baritones, so if you need a bell-front euphonium to play into a mic and happen to find a G euph bugle for cheap it could be a good solution. That said, G euphs are also not as common as G baritones (ESPECIALLY the rare 3-valve models by Kanstul or Dynasty), so it would have to be a lucky situation.
Contrabass Bugle
Generally, contrabass bugles are just Bb tubas that point forward and are crooked down to G. A 3 or 4-valve G contra is a cool beast, but not a cheap or useful one. In my opinion the only reason to buy a G contra would be if it was an older piston/rotor or 2 piston model being sold for nearly nothing, that you could get converted to a concert tuba with a front-action valve set in the same bore that you happen to have lying around. Otherwise, a normal tuba is a much better purchase.
Closing Thoughts
Sadly, the door is nearly shut on the G competition bugle. G bugles were quickly phased out of DCI competition after the any-key rule change in 2000, and the list of groups that still use G bugles is not a long one. The most notable is the United States Marine Band Commandant’s Own Drum & Bugle Corps, which very recently moved from 2-valve Kanstuls to 3-valve BACs. Other than that, there are some alumni and lower-level junior corps that are still on G, as well as a handful of small G-faithful corps in Japan, such as the Yokohama Scouts.
The only place to buy a new G bugle is from BAC in Kansas City. BAC acquired the Kanstul G bugle tooling when Kanstul shut its doors in 2019, which is why they made the new bugles for the Commandant’s Own. They do advertise the G bugles on their website catalog, but they price them at nearly twice what Kanstul did, making them far out of reach for most people who might be interested in one. Additionally, they only offer 4 out of Kanstul’s 10 bugle models, so if you want anything other than a soprano, mellophone, large baritone, or contra, you are probably out of luck.
Fortunately, the common types of G bugle were made in large quantities to outfit all the corps’ hornlines, so there is no shortage of used soprano, mellophone, French horn, baritone, and contrabass bugles to be found. Additionally, as they are all essentially obsolete and only desirable by DCI alumni and G bugle collectors, they usually go for very affordable prices. The 3-valve horns and less common types (alto, flugelhorn, euphonium) are harder to find, but if you are patient it is still doable. If you are diligent, you may even come across one of the ultra-rare models for a very low price. There are still unaccounted-for examples of nearly every kind of bugle ever made out there waiting to be found.
Alto Trumpet (and other low-ish trumpets)
Without a doubt, the alto trumpet is the black sheep of the trumpet family.
Built in low F or E-flat, this instrument was allegedly invented by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov…at least, that’s what he claims in his treatise on orchestration. Regardless, he wrote for it often and his Russian contemporaries followed suit. But what is it really, and why is it essentially extinct?
The first and most important thing to note is that the alto trumpet is NOT the same instrument as the older orchestral trumpets in low F or Eb, which are direct descendants of the long natural trumpets that came before and were written for by many popular orchestral composers (Mahler, Strauss, etc.). Those are true trumpets, rather than the mostly-cornet instruments we call “trumpets” today.
Although both the low orchestral trumpet and the alto trumpet are the same length and you might think the distinction is unnecessary, they are completely different instruments. I have experience with both types, and they could not be any more different in sound, feel, and function if they tried. The difference is as large as a modern tuba compared to an ophicleide.
As if two instruments in the same family that are the same length but are completely different was not confusing enough, there is actually a third instrument to throw into the mix: the F or E-flat bass trumpet.
These instruments have a larger bore and bell than alto trumpets and take a trombone mouthpiece, and function essentially the same as the more common C and Bb bass trumpets. Once again, these instruments are entirely removed from either the low orchestral trumpet or alto trumpet in sound, feel, and function. Eb bass trumpets are most often seen nowadays in German folk music, for example as the middle voice between a rotary flugelhorn and a large Bb bass trumpet or bass flugelhorn. Here is a great example:
These three instruments are all trumpets in low F or E-flat, but they are completely different. To summarize:
F/Eb low orchestral trumpet: meant to be played in the same register as a Bb or C trumpet. It’s a natural trumpet with valves, and it plays and sounds as such. Uses a small mouthpiece.
F/Eb alto trumpet: meant to be played a 4th or 5th below the Bb trumpet. Designed from that instrument, rather than from the natural trumpet. Does what the name implies. Uses a mouthpiece in between trumpet and trombone in size (~19mm).
F/Eb bass trumpet: meant to be played roughly an octave below the Bb trumpet, like a C or Bb bass trumpet. Plays and sounds like any other bass trumpet. Uses a trombone mouthpiece.
While none of these instruments are particularly common, low orchestral trumpets are still made by Kuhnl & Hoyer and a few boutique makers (Thein, Egger, Dotzauer), and F/Eb bass trumpets still have a market (Thein, Meinl Weston, Helmut Voigt, Lars Gerdt, likely many more small German and Austrian makers).
This is not the case for the alto trumpet, which is currently made (to my knowledge) by nobody. Why is that?
The easiest explanation is the repertoire.
Eb bass trumpet does have a few important parts in the orchestra such as the Rite of Spring, but the bass trumpet in C is the orchestral standard for all bass trumpet parts so you’re not likely to see an F or Eb bass trumpet in the orchestra. However, it has an established role in German folk music, and thus will always have a use and thus a market.
While the low orchestral trumpet is sadly totally extinct in the world of modern orchestral trumpeting, a massive portion of the standard orchestral canon was written for it, so there will always be a small interest in them for players that value authenticity or regularly engage in historically-informed orchestral performance.
The alto trumpet doesn’t have any existing use like that to rely on. There is some Russian repertoire for it, but all of those parts were deliberately written within the range of the Bb trumpet so that the part could still be covered if no alto trumpet was available. This is a logical move, but the unfortunate result is that there is zero incentive to get an alto trumpet for those parts. Mahler-style low orchestral trumpets suffer from the same issue; with a few notable exceptions, everything is well within the range of a Bb or C trumpet.
But suppose an intrepid player wanted to honor Rimsky-Korsakov’s intentions and get an F alto trumpet. The player might also point out that there is some research to indicate Wagner’s 3rd trumpet parts might have been intended for a similar instrument, in order to further justify their purchase. Where can they buy one?
Unfortunately, alto trumpet buying options are nearly nonexistent. As previously mentioned, nobody (to my knowledge) makes a new one. The closest thing is the Carol Brass CTR-5000L-YLT-Bb/G-L, which is just a normal Bb trumpet with alternate slides to put it in G. You’d also have to find a dealer that would be willing to get one for you, as I haven’t found any online store that stocks the model.
You might find some luck with Italian brass makers, as Italian military and police bands are the only place I know of where the alto trumpet has seen regular use, with the 3rd trumpet part often played on F altos instead of Bbs. Those bands are anomalous in other ways too, though - cimbasso, bass trumpets, and Eb soprano flugelhorns are standard features of those bands (though the Eb flugelhorn isn’t so common anymore, usually being substituted by Eb cornet).
As an aside, alto trumpet does have some further history with concert bands. In the spectacular 1923-1924 roster for the University of Illinois Concert Band, one alto trumpet player is listed:
Okay, so what about buying an alto trumpet used? Well, here is a summary of the used alto trumpet market, from my experience:
Bach “contralto” trumpets (made in either F or Eb): enormously rare, and when they do show up for sale they have the Collectible Bach Tax™ and are very expensive. Not that they were cheap when they were new, mind you. I am fortunate enough to own one of these with a gold brass bell (model 351G) - something I’ve never seen another example of. Over the years this instrument was designated either 187F (and presumably 187E for the Eb model, though I have no proof of that) or 351, with the bell mandrel always being 351.
Holton 56 (Eb only) and Olds Custom F-10: both ultra rare, and usually expensive.
Conn 34B, 40B, 50B (all Eb only): very rarely show up for sale. If you do manage to find one, beware: everything I have read about them says that they are very stuffy and generally bad to play.
Getzen 389 (F with Eb slide): By far the most common used alto trumpet to show up, but still not common at all. Plus, it’s a student-level instrument that by all accounts is not that great. Make sure to not mistake a Getzen frumpet for one, as they look similar.
Kühnl & Hoyer low Ebs (model 599/599K): I include these only to warn you that these are not actually alto trumpets. They look like they should be as they have piston valves and a very normal wrap (in either the short (599K) or long (599) variety), but they are actually long orchestral trumpets like the old rotaries in terrible condition that live on eBay. I believe the Chinese low Eb trumpets on eBay are clones of the K&H 599K, but I’m not completely sure.
3-valve G soprano bugle: The old drum corps G soprano bugles were basically trumpets in low G with an extra-large bore and bell throat. This means that with a suitably large mouthpiece, they actually work very well as a G alto trumpet. As a bonus, the Dynasty 3-valve sopranos show up on eBay quite frequently at very affordable prices (usually $150-250). While these are not in F or Eb and you would thus have to transpose (or get slide extensions made), they can play down to concert Db3, which covers every extra low note in the repertoire except for the low C in Mozart 41 (which is not an important note anyway). Used Kanstul sopranos are less common and more expensive, but generally regarded as the better instrument. You could also buy a brand new Kanstul-pattern one from BAC if you really wanted to.
My conclusion is simple: every orchestral trumpeter should own a 3-valve G soprano bugle. It costs nearly nothing, plays well, and covers all your extra-low needs. Use it on parts intended for alto trumpet (Rimsky-Korsakov 3rd trumpet parts) even if they don’t go below the range of a Bb. Use it for Carmen, use it for Heldenleben, use it for trumpets 4/5/6 in Mahler 6. Use it for all those old 2nd parts written for natural trumpet that throw in a random 2nd partial note or two (Don Giovanni and Manfred Overture for example).
Do I wish alto trumpets in F or E-flat were easier to get? Very much so. I would really love to have an F alto, and I’d also really love to be able to write for F alto. But until somebody decides to make a new one (hello, Wessex? ACB?), at least there is a readily-available alternative in the 3-valve soprano bugle.
The Lineage of the King Marching Mellophone
King’s marching mellophone has been one of the most popular mellophones since its introduction. While the Yamaha YMP-204M is the current standard of the mellophone world, the King 1120 and 1121 still see a lot of use in marching bands, most notably HBCUs. But the story of this design did not begin with the King 1120 - it actually has direct ancestry back to the bad old days of the drum corps G bugle.
All five of these instruments share the same basic design, and all (except possibly the 1121) were the brainchild of the same person: Zig Kanstul.
These instruments are pictured in chronological order from left to right: King K-50, Kanstul KMB-180, Kanstul KMM-280, King 1120, King 1121 Ultimate.
This design began with the King K-50 mellophone bugle in G, a legendary mellophone that was the best of the 2-valve mellophones. Zig Kanstul designed the full line of King K-series 2-valve G bugles, and while all were good, the K-50 mellophone is one of the most revered models of the line. And it’s easy to see why - the K-50 is the sports car of the mellophone world. It plays easily, sounds great, and screams better than anything.
When Drum Corps International legalized three valves in 1990, Zig Kanstul came back to the K-50’s basic design and updated it with a 3rd valve, but this time under his own brand. The early Kanstul KMB-180 mellophone bugle in G was the next step in this design’s evolution. You’ll notice that the KMB-180 deviated slightly from the K-50 design by having the leadpipe enter the 1st valve from the other side, rather than angling to get around the 1st valve slide and entering the valve from that side. The leadpipe is also shorter than the K-50’s, with that length moved to the taper after the valves. This instrument also introduced the unique 3rd-valve slide wrap that remained a distinguishing feature of the design until the King 1121. I’ve never played a KMB-180, but I did own an early-pattern KAB-175 alto bugle, which is the same instrument as the KMB-180 with a smaller bell flare. That instrument was an incredible player that felt effortless in the hands, much like a K-50.
It didn’t take long for the Kanstul brand to branch out from G bugles, and the KMM-280 marching mellophone in F was this design’s next iteration. It was the same instrument as the KMB-180, just with a longer leadpipe and valve slides to bring it down a whole step to F. This was the real blueprint for the King 1120, and I would love to get my hands on one to compare the two. After this, Kanstul redesigned their mellophones and altos (in both G and F) into a completely new design, so the Kanstul Musical Instruments branch of this design’s lineage ends here.
Next up was the King 1120, which came about when King hired Zig to help design at least some of their marching brass. (The 1122 Bb marching horn is likely another, as it looks to be the same design as the King K-60 French horn bugle. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the 1124 marching baritone is also Zig’s work, being as it has the same wrap as the Kanstul 290 marching baritone.) Visually, the 1120 looks the same as the Kanstul KMM-280, apart from the leadpipe. The 1120’s leadpipe returned to the K-50’s design, with the longer wrap and routing around the 1st valve slide. The 1120 became one of the most successful marching mellophones ever, used by many high schools and colleges for many years. I used my 1120 as my gigging mellophone until I got my Yamaha 204, and the King never let me down. Because so many were made and used, they can easily be found for very cheap (around $100) on eBay. In my experience, out of all of the dirt-cheap ex-school marching mellophones out there, the 1120 is by far the best option. The 1120 has also been stenciled as the Conn 132E and Bach B1105.
Eventually, King updated the long-running 1120 and created the 1121 Ultimate. This is mostly the same instrument but with an angled leadpipe, re-wrapped 3rd valve slide, and 3rd-slide finger ring. Early 1121s also had a spring-loaded 1st valve slide, but the current ones do not. I’m unaware if Zig was involved in the 1121’s design, but it was only a minor update anyway. The 1121 was recently succeeded by a few different mellophone models that have made everything much more confusing. Based on what I can tell from product pages, these are the models and their differences from the 1121:
K20: no angled leadpipe or 3rd-slide finger ring, nickel-silver pistons (instead of Monel), half-inch smaller bell (10” vs. 10.5”), sometimes (but not always) with a brace on the bottom bow, already discontinued
KMP411: no angled leadpipe or 3rd-slide finger ring, half-inch smaller bell (10” vs. 10.5”), more open 3rd-valve slide wrap, notched main tuning slide, adjusted valve cluster location, sometimes (but not always) 1 or 2 braces on the bottom bow, apparently designed by the Blue Devils
KMP611 Ultimate: no angled leadpipe, half-inch smaller bell (10” vs. 10.5”), .466” bore instead of .468”, nickel silver leadpipe, and a redesigned bell
KMH611 Ultimate: a KMP611 with a French horn receiver and angled leadpipe, which appears to be the end result of the King/Patterson hornette project
The three KMP models are already out in the world, but there are still K20s and 1121s in stock at some retailers so the transition isn’t entirely complete. I’m curious to try the new models to see if more incremental changes from the basic 1120 design are enough to make them truly compete with the Yamaha 204. While I did manage to snag my 1121 for very cheap, I have a feeling it will be a long time before cheap K20s and KMPs start showing up online.
As an interesting final note, the Yamaha line of marching mellophones was based on the cornet-wrap design of the Olds A-42 marching mellophone (which was stenciled by quite a few makers including Bach, Blessing, and Reynolds). The Olds marching mellophone was the first F marching mellophone, derived from the G mellophone bugle and designed by…you guessed it…Zig Kanstul!
So, the two mellophones that have dominated the marching arts for years are either an actual Zig design or a derivative of one. In fact, as the Jupiter mellophone is also essentially the same design as the Yamaha, the only current marching mellophone that isn’t a Zig Kanstul derivative in some way is the Adams MM-1, which bears a closer resemblance to the Dynasty mellophones.
Marching French Horn
The marching French horn is an enigma. Sure, it’s been used by high school marching bands and drum and bugle corps, but there are very few recordings of them on the Internet. They also carry a bad reputation with them…they’re impossible to march with, they sound worse and not as loud as a mellophone, and are generally pointless. Or so people say.
Some of these claims do have some truth to them. Picking out pitches on a Bb or low G single horn with a narrow horn rim while running around a football field is certainly not easy, and the drum corps “Frenchie” lines earned notoriety for lots of cracked notes. The marching horn (regardless of key) also does fall short of the mellophone in terms of raw decibel output. Additionally, band directors often don’t know what to do with them. Do they read Bb parts or F? (The correct answer is F. Always F.) Are they worth the additional expense over a mellophone? Why do some have bent leadpipes and some don’t?
Despite all this, I think the marching horn is unfairly maligned. A good marching horn with the right player and mouthpiece behind it really does sound pretty close to a “real” horn, and you certainly can’t get that sound with a mellophone.
It is also important to understand the marching horn’s integral role in drum corps G bugle hornlines before the legalization of 3 valves. While mid-voice instrumentation in drum corps back then was full of experimentation, French horns were a common choice. Why? Because being twice as long as the G mellophones (or flugelhorns, alto bugles, or meehaphones) meant that they could access many crucial notes in the mid-register that simply did not exist on the other 2-valve alto instruments. This was huge for the arrangers of the time, and a good French horn line added a huge amount of depth and flexibility to a hornline.
However, the top corps had begun to streamline their mid-voice to just mellophones even before 3 valves were legalized in 1990. While the tonal colors of a varied mid-voice line were great, unifying to one type of instrument meant tuning and blend was much easier. That said, a few small French horn lines did survive briefly into the 3 valve era, most notably in the Cavaliers and Santa Clara Vanguard. Both lines used the Kanstul KHB-185 3-valve G French horn bugle, with 8 made for SCV and 6 made for the Cavaliers. It is likely that no other examples of the model were made (despite it remaining in the Kanstul catalog for most of the company’s life), which would mean there are only 14 in the world.
Here’s one!
This is the Kanstul KHB-185 I used to own, which was one of the Santa Clara Vanguard horns (it is even stamped as such on the bell!). SCV used these only through the 1992 season, after which they moved to all mellophones.
This horn is a great player. It is certainly not point-and-shoot like a mellophone; you have to work for the right notes just like on a single F horn (which is only a whole step lower). But the reward for your efforts is a bell-front instrument that really does sound like a French horn.
But don’t just take my word for it. Here’s a quick 8-part demo I recorded all on this Kanstul:
While the register of drum corps French horn parts meant that they really did not need a third valve, I certainly enjoyed getting to use the full range of the instrument in this bite-sized piece.
Being fully chromatic also means that an instrument like this could really be the solution for playing French horn into a mic that’s placed in front of you. I have played many gigs where I doubled on French horn, and the only solution with a normal horn is to physically turn 90 degrees to the left and hold the bell up the mic like you’re playing Mahler. It is awkward at best. This Kanstul (which sounds like a horn, but points forward) is the perfect solution for a gigging brass doubler. I do feel that more typical a Kanstul 285 Bb marching horn is a better compromise just for the fingerings; I (along with most brass improvisers) am much more comfortable improvising in Bb than G, and this is the reason why I ended up selling the the KHB-185. I have also played a recording session here in Los Angeles where everyone was on marching instruments and one of the mellophone players also played a Kanstul 285 on some cues, presumably to fatten up the section sound.
The only other non-marching band use of a marching horn I’ve seen is by the fabulous Solo Hornist of the Munich Philharmonic, Matias Piñeira. He has a custom small bell Bb marching horn, which appears to be an Otto 207 “La Revolución”, that he uses for salsa playing in addition to his normal Alexander 103. He uses both instruments in this video:
Here’s a brief trip through some other interesting types of marching French horns.
First up is the previously-mentioned Kanstul 285 marching horn in B-flat. While you could be forgiven for thinking that the Kanstul 185 marching horn in G above was based on the 285, it’s actually the other way around. Zig Kanstul started his company making G bugles only, so the Bb 285 is actually a derivative of the G. It has the same up-turned leadpipe to allow for a typical downstream horn embouchure while holding the horn above parallel. Other brands’ marching horns do not have this feature. The B-flat marching horn is the most common type of marching horn, and a few manufacturers (Yamaha, King, Adams) each have a model in their current lineup.
Kanstul also sold a high F marching horn, model 284. High F marching horns are not common, but they have been produced by Kanstul, Dynasty, and Blessing. Since Kanstul closed up shop in 2019, I don’t believe there are any high F marching horns currently being produced. The closest thing I know of is the King KMH611, which is basically just a mellophone with a horn receiver and thus not really a marching horn.
There have been some very odd-looking marching horns throughout history as well, such as the Holton MH-100, 101, and 102. These Dr. Seuss horns play as oddly as they look, but at the same time they play concerningly well. They have a trumpet mouthpiece shank for some reason, which allows you to put lots of different kinds of mouthpieces in it. Most inexplicably, they have been copied by Jinbao. Every aspect of this instrument’s existence seems like it came out of a fever dream! Unbeknownst to most, Yamaha also made a circular marching horn in the Holton style: the ultra-rare YHR-301M.
Feast your eyes on this glorious Hans Hoyer 4-valve Bb marching horn, which is possibly the only 4-valve marching horn ever made, and certainly one of the only professional-quality bell-front horns in existence. My desire for one of these knows no bounds.
Finally, a discussion about marching horns cannot ever be truly complete without discussing the Patterson Hornette project. This was an attempt to create a new kind of bell-front French horn for use by horn players in jazz and popular music, in a similar vein to the Otto 207 referenced above. Unfortunately, despite Conn-Selmer being linked to the hornette project, it has been radio silence since the 2022 IHS Symposium. Hopefully we will get updates soon!
The Low Alto Bugle
Speaking of marching horns with trumpet shanks, Kanstul also made a very odd variant of the KHB-185 3-valve G French horn bugle presented at the beginning of the article. They called it a “Low Alto”, and it is the same as the KHB-185 except for a different leadpipe (trumpet shank) and main tuning slide arrangement. As weird as it is, 6 were built and it did see some drum corps use with the Marauders and later the Kingsmen Alumni.
Because it has a trumpet shank, the low alto bugle can accept many different mouthpiece types. As I have adapters for both trumpet to horn and trumpet to cornet, I was able to see how it sounds with mouthpieces that use all 3 shanks. As it is a Kanstul G marching horn at heart, if you use a horn mouthpiece with an adapter it plays and sounds pretty much like the KHB-185 French horn bugle. It’s a little harder to play accurately and a little more work to get a centered horn sound (I suspect mostly due to the adapter), but it’s there if you work for it. And unlike the 185, the low alto has a whole toy chest of other sounds to explore by using different mouthpieces.
From my time with the low alto, I found that horn, tenor horn, alto trumpet, and very small trombone mouthpieces worked the best. I do think that a mouthpiece that truly matched the instrument well would have to be custom made. But rather than talking about it any longer, I’ll just let you listen. I recorded a small collection of short, improvised excerpts on 11 different mouthpieces (and adapters when required), each meant for a different instrument.
Lastly, here’s a back-to-back comparison of the 2 marching horns with trumpet shanks: the G low alto bugle with horn mouthpiece (via adapter) and the Holton MH-101 with horn mouthpiece (via adapter).
The One Ring of Trombones
In many ways, most common brass instruments could be pared down to one model of instrument and no harm would be done. For example, if the only kind of trumpet in the world was a Bach 37, very little would change. Orchestral players would have to get used to not using C trumpets and/or rotaries, and high baroque and solo repertoire would be more difficult. But overall, business would pretty much continue as usual. The Bach 37 is played by many players in every style where a trumpet exists, and it works perfectly well in all of them. I personally have never played a Bach 37 I’ve liked, but it would still be my immediate suggestion for the only model of trumpet in the world.
Horns are even more flexible; you could pick an Alexander 103 or a Yamaha YHR-671D or any number of other popular double horns as the world’s only kind of horn and no harm would be done (apart from in historically-informed performance, but that’s a casualty in any of these “one instrument” scenarios).
A Besson Sovereign would be my pick for the only euphonium, but it could just as easily be a Yamaha YEP-642. Tuba is a little more difficult, but you can just pick one that’s pretty good at everything. For my money that would be a British compensating E-flat, such as a 19” bell Besson.
Trombones seem to be the most difficult; you need to find a trombone that can do everything, from alto to contrabass. That means screaming 4-hour salsa gigs, stratospheric Bill Watrous or Dave Steinmeyer jazz ballads, delicate Mozart alto trombone parts, heavy Mahler or Wagner orchestral parts from 1st to 4th, wild Broadway pit books, earth-shaking low blasts in modern film scores, and more. You don’t get to have one alto trombone, one small tenor trombone, one bass trombone, and so on. You can only have one kind of trombone, total.
Of course, there is no answer to this question that doesn’t compromise in some way. No single trombone can play alto and contrabass parts equally well. We need to find a trombone that can do everything decently enough that trombone players would be able to make it work. To me, that means it needs to be a medium-sized tenor trombone with F attachment that isn’t picky about what mouthpieces work in it, has an unusually beefy low register, an easy high register, the volume to project over a salsa or rock band, and a very “vanilla” trombone sound that is easily colored.
What trombone does all of that? Easy: the King 3BF.
For my money, the 3BF (along with its slightly larger stablemates, the King 3B+F and King 607) is the most versatile trombone of all time. I have used mine to play every tenor chair in a big band, lots of salsa gigs, New Orleans jazz, bebop combo work, principal trombone in an orchestra, brass quintet, Broadway books that go well into the bass trombone register, entire classical trombone sections top to bottom in recording sessions, and more. No, it doesn’t have as beefy of a low register as a bass trombone, but you’d be surprised at how much sound you can put through those low notes on the 3BF. The F valve has an E pull as well, so even if we don’t get to have 2-valve 3BFs in this hypothetical one-trombone world, we’d still do just fine on the low stuff.
Now the 3BF is certainly a bit biased towards the brighter, higher commercial side of the trombone’s oeuvre. The 607, being just a bit larger but otherwise the same, sits more right down the middle between the orchestral and commercial sides of the spectrum. The very high register (D5 and above) is just a bit more work than the 3BF, but in exchange you get an absurdly beefy low register (better than most large bore tenors in my opinion!), and a sound that more easily fits into the darker classical mold while still easily being able to play as bright and punchy as you need for any other genre you might find yourself playing in. But the 3BF and 607 play very similarly, with only a small difference that is mostly noticed when playing them back to back. On their own, you pick either up and it just works immediately, in any style. As an additional plus, these trombones are very easy to play and can handle lots of abuse, so it wouldn’t be a bad situation for beginners either.
It’s an easy conclusion for me. If the only kind of trombone in the world was the King 3BF, we would be just fine.
Ascending Valves
If you are curious about brass instruments, you may have come across something called an ascending valve in your Internet travels. If you’re not sure what that is, or you do but would like to read about all the different kinds of ascending valves out there, this article is for you.
The concept of an ascending valve is pretty simple. A normal valve is inactive when it is not pressed down (via piston finger button, rotor paddle, etc.), so the air goes straight through and doesn’t detour through the additional valve tubing. When you press down the valve mechanism, the valve activates, redirecting the air through the valve tubing and lowering the instrument’s pitch. An ascending valve is set up the opposite way - the valve is active when it is not pressed, so its default state is using the additional valve tubing. Then when you press down the valve, it becomes inactive, raising the pitch.
In fact, there is an ascending valve that is completely standard in the modern brass world: the change valve on a double horn. The instrument stands in F, and then when you depress the change valve with your thumb it shortens to B-flat. (That said, some players will modify the change valve to stand in B-flat, especially in Europe.)
The most complicated part of an ascending valve is really from a tuning perspective. Let’s say you have a tenor trombone with a normal descending F attachment. The trombone is in B-flat, and then the valve lowers it to F. Easy enough; you tune the whole horn with the main tuning slide (logical) and then tune the valve with the valve tuning slide. Now let’s say you that trombone has an ascending C valve rather than a descending F valve. The trombone’s open length (no active valves) is now C, but it still stands in B-flat. So to properly tune it you need to depress the valve and tune the open C horn via the main tuning slide first, and then lift off the valve so you can tune in B-flat via the valve’s tuning slide.
You may have noticed that even though this hypothetical trombone with an ascending valve is technically pitched in C, we still think of it in B-flat as that’s where it stands without depressing the valve, and how it is meant to be played. Thus we refer to it as a B-flat tenor trombone with an ascending C valve.
Ascending valves have a long history and have been used on various brass instruments in many different ways. They had the most widespread use in French piston-valve horns (that can properly be called French horns!) from the late 19th century until the middle of the 20th. Probably the most interesting type is the Chaussier horn, an instrument developed in the 1880s.
The valved horn was still unpopular in France at the time, and the Chaussier horn was intended to be played essentially as a natural horn with built-in crook changes. The Chaussier horn had a valve system completely alien to modern brass players:
Stands in F
1st valve is a normal 1st valve (descending whole step, resulting in Eb)
2nd valve is an ascending half step (resulting in F#)
3rd valve is an ascending major 3rd (resulting in A)
Thumb (4th) valve is a normal 4th valve (descending perfect 4th, resulting in C basso)
The use of all these valves allows you to set the horn in any key from B basso to B-flat alto. As the highest possible standing pitch is achieved with both ascending valves (2 and 3) deactivated, B-flat alto is the true length of the open horn. But as it stands in F, it is thought of as an F horn with 2 ascending valves.
When the French fully adopted valve horns, they continued with the ascending valve idea, but in a more conventional way. On many French piston-valved horns, the 3rd valve is an ascending whole step, while all the other valves are in the typical configuration we are used to today. The result is an instrument that actually retains most standard fingerings, but with the added bonus of easier high notes using the (ascending) 3rd valve. It is still a compromise though; because you lose the descending minor 3rd of a typical 3rd valve, you lose a few notes in the low register.
A normal single F horn with descending 3rd valve can play chromatically down to sounding B1, while a single F horn with ascending 3rd valve cannot play lower than D2 (excluding pedal notes) and also can’t play Ab2. Because of these compromises (easier high notes in exchange for worse low notes in the ascending horn, and vice versa for the descending horn), it was common in France for high horn players (1st and 3rd) to play horns with ascending 3rd valves, while low horn players (2nd and 4th) would play horns with descending 3rd valves.
A standard F/Bb double horn with descending 3rd valve is entirely chromatic all the way down. If you exclude the F-side pedals (which most horn players can’t reach), it can play chromatically down to E1. If you do include the F-side pedals, the lowest real note is B0. (With false tones you could play even lower, into the double pedals.) Meanwhile, an F/Bb double horn with ascending 3rd valve cannot play Db2 (or Db1, a pedal), and without F-side pedals bottoms out at G1. Thus, French horn makers continued to make both ascending and descending models when double horns became standard.
Ascending 3rd valves didn’t catch on outside of France, but there are a few single B-flat horns with ascending valves that you can buy today, such as the 5-valve Ricco Kühn W125/C. There have also been a handful of modern ascending double and double descant models, though I don’t know of any currently offered.
Outside of horns, ascending valves have had some notable trumpeter proponents. Robb Stewart has an excellent article on his website about the history of trumpets with ascending valves by Schilke and Thibouville-Lamy, and the players who used them. There are a couple of manufacturers that offer ascending valve trumpets today - Jaeger Brass offers ascending valve trumpets in C/D or Bb/C based on the Thibouville-Lamy designs, and Blackburn offers a 5-valve C trumpet with an ascending D valve designed by David Hickman.
Finally, a similar number of ascending valve proponents exists in the trombone world as well.
Günter Frost was a bass trombonist for the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra, and pioneered the ascending C valve on trombones. In 1981, he patented the idea of a trombone for young beginners with an ascending C valve. Starting in 2001, he worked with a few master German makers (M&H Thein, Joachim Pfretzschner, Helmut Voigt, Jürgen Voigt) to make six models of professional trombone in various sizes, all with ascending C valves. (Herr Frost’s website is long defunct, but is still accessible via the Wayback Machine.)
In Günter Frost’s dependent designs, the F valve is inset in the ascending C valve’s tubing, which interestingly means that you can use either valve on their own, but not both together (as when you press down the C valve, it closes, leaving the F valve unconnected to the airflow). Personally, I think this is a genius configuration for a large tenor trombone. You get a standard trombone with F-attachment, plus low C and B as pedal notes and a turbo button for high notes. Imagine the 1st trombone excerpt from Symphonie Fantastique with the fortissimo high Eb, or the one from Also Sprach Zarathustra with the octave jump to fortissimo high D - much more secure on the C valve! But when playing solo rep, pit work, or contemporary classical music that is much more liberal with the tenor trombone’s low register, you also have easy access to low C and B.
The manufacturer Thein used to offer a tenor trombone with an ascending C valve and full-length slide, allowing for 8 positions with the C valve engaged. The webpage for this instrument had no photographs, but it had a diagram showing the positions on the slide in B-flat and C. Additionally, adding a second, independent F valve was listed as an option. Years later, Pete Edwards took the independent-valved version of the ascending concept to its logical conclusion and built a bass trombone with independent F and ascending C valves:
This instrument was also given a screw bell, making it incredibly convenient for travel. With the two valves independent, you also have access to flat G positions with both valves pressed, so it has a ton of slide position choices. (Thread with more information and pictures here.)
There is also a currently one mass-produced ascending valve instrument, Yamaha’s YSL-350C. This instrument is a student-level tenor trombone with a .500-.525” dual bore slide with 6 positions and an ascending C valve, and is intended for young players whose arms can’t reach 7th position but also can’t hold up a heavy F-attachment trombone. However, a few advanced players (e.g. Doug Yeo) use it as a travel instrument as it is significantly smaller than a normal tenor trombone. For whatever reason, this instrument has also been cloned by Jinbao and is sold by John Packer, Schiller, Thomann, and others for a much cheaper price than the Yamaha.
I think there is more to be done with ascending valves. It would certainly benefit the Conn 16E mellophonium, whose main tuning slide has room to be cut to G to then have an ascending whole step valve added. It could also be useful for tuba doublers (typically trombonists) who are used to Bb fingerings but need a real pedal C for the Lion King musical.
NAMM Show Report 2023
The NAMM Show is an annual music industry trade show that brings together hundreds of manufacturers of musical instruments, equipment, and other gear under one massive roof. Its real purpose is for industry people, but lots of musicians come from around the country every year to spend a day (or 3) trying all the instruments and making connections, as well as seeing one of the many live bands performing throughout the event (or performing in one themselves).
For a musician, especially a gearhead multi-instrumentalist like me, walking into the NAMM Show is pretty much the ultimate weapons-grade “kid in a candy store” feeling. I try to go every year, and I usually always collect some thoughts in a write-up of sorts. Here’s my 2023 NAMM brass instrument report!
WARNING: This is full of ultra brass nerd nonsense, but if you’re on this website you were probably expecting that.
BUFFET CRAMPON
This was where I started after walking in the second the show floor opened, and would come back to a couple more times later in the day. Buffet Crampon owns an umbrella of instrument manufacturers, including brass makers Courtois, B&S, and Besson.
Besson Sovereign BE967-2 euphonium: The best euphonium at NAMM this year in my opinion. An excellent instrument that was very responsive and fun to play.
Besson Prestige BE2052 euphonium (gold plated, Steven Mead spec): In the past the Prestige at NAMM has been so spectacular that it felt like magic - definitely a star of the show. This year though, the Prestige didn’t do it for me. Still a very high quality instrument of course, but that colorful Besson magic was missing.
Besson Prestige BE2028-2G-0 British cornet: Playing this lovely cornet opened my eyes to just how amazing a real top of the line brass band-spec cornet can be…and just how NOT amazing the two cornets I have are! The only negative was that the 2 tuning triggers were not very comfortable to use for my hands.
B&S: The trumpets (a few Bbs, one C, all Bach-like) were alright - solid high-quality instruments that played well but didn’t leave a lasting impression. I didn’t play the 2 CC tubas there, as contrabass tubas are not my forte or interest.
Courtois Creation AC421-BHRA-1-0 New York .547” tenor trombone: This trombone was the star of the show for me. I have a strained relationship with large bore tenors, as they feel like the hardest size of trombone to really feel great to play. I’ve tried very few large tenors in my life that I really loved, but this 421 was one of them. It was absolutely effortless to play in all registers and dynamics, had a gorgeous sound, and was very forgiving. In my experience most large tenors have only one of these qualities at a time, and they don’t feel like a complete instrument you can love and rely on. This had everything and it was hard to put down…but with a retail price of $6k I’ll only own one in my dreams!
Other Courtois trombones: There was a Creation AC551BHA-1-0 New York bass trombone and some basic Bach 42BO-style trombone. They played very well, but nothing special or anything I would want to live with (let alone drop serious cash on), which is more in line with my normal Courtois experience (402 Xtreme excluded, which sadly was not at NAMM this time).
Hans Hoyer 8D-style nickel Kruspe double horn: I didn’t check what model this was (and Hoyer makes two different Kruspe models with a ton of different options), but it was a lovely horn with a lovely sound. I would absolutely play one of these as my main horn!
EASTMAN SHIRES
Shires TBDR David Rejano Artist Model .547” tenor trombone: This was my favorite Shires tenor, and my second favorite large tenor after the Courtois AC421. It played extremely well and was very easy with a nice sound, but the Courtois did everything it did better. It also had extremely tight slots like all the Shires tenors, meaning you had to play every note EXACTLY right or it wouldn’t work. The Courtois was very forgiving…this, not so much. Very nice horn overall though.
Other Shires large tenor trombones: For me, they were all different flavors of “fine”. Easy to play (besides the tight slots), but with a boring sound. Not lifeless…just not super interesting. And an uninteresting large tenor sound makes me walk away REAL quick. Out of these though, the dual bore Ralph Sauer model was my favorite. But the Rejano did everything it did a lot better! An interesting sidenote is that I liked the Q-series tenors at least as much as the custom ones.
Shires bass trombones: There were two Q36 basses (one with rotors, one with axials) that played very nicely. I generally like Shires basses, and these were no exception. I didn’t LOVE them, but for a solid, reliable bass trombone they’re a great option. There was also a TBGC George Curran Artist Model bass, which I didn’t like at all.
Shires TBQ35 alto trombone: This was probably my favorite Shires instrument there alongside the Rejano. It had a nice vibrant sound and was very easy to play. I’m currently borrowing a custom Shires tuning-in-slide alto with a rose brass bell for a gig, and the Q35 here played and sounded MUCH better in my opinion. The custom TIS alto feels like it has exactly one sound that it likes to play and you can’t get it away from that…and that sound isn’t very colorful. Plus it’s way more expensive than a Q35, which retails for about $2,200. Save money AND sound better! What’s not to love? There was also a TBQAlessi alto, which felt…pretty much exactly the same. I slightly preferred the standard Q35 though.
Shires TBMG Marshall Gilkes Artist Model .500” trombone: I expected to like this model, and I was right. It played very well, the way you would expect an expensive custom small bore (retail is about $3,700) to. But…it didn’t play better than my old 3B, nor did any small bore trombone at the show.
Shires TBQ33 .508” trombone: Also a very good, competent small bore in all ways. Fun to play and very nearly as good as the Marshall Gilkes model for $1,300 less, but again…not as good as my 3B!
Shires EUQ41S euphonium: This Q-series euphonium was one of the best in the show in my opinion. It was extremely easy to play all over the range and sounded excellent. It also had the best left hand ergonomics. Definitely a solid euphonium for any player…it just works.
Willson euphoniums: I really like Willson euphoniums and the dark Willson sound. In the past I’ve always preferred the larger 2950/2960 over the 2900, but this time the 2900TA was my preference over the 2950TA. But the Shires Q41 euph was right in between them and played better than either.
Willson 3400S FA-5 Eb tuba: There were two of these, both labelled with very slightly different model designations (I believe one was a 3400 FA-5S and the other was a 3400S FA-5). And they were very different! The second one I tried was smaller in bore and size than the other, and was not as good. The bigger one (3400S FA-5 I believe) was a fabulous tuba. Big sound, good intonation, easy to play. Most tubas I’ve tried feel like you get a very underwhelming return for your efforts, but this one felt as easy and natural to play as anything smaller. Loved it!
Marching mellophones: There were quite a few Yamaha 204 clones at NAMM. Eastman (EMP304S) and BAC both had one, as did a few of the Chinese manufacturer booths. The BAC even had “Made by Jin Bao” stamped in big block lettering on the valve block…I got a good chuckle out of that. I tried a few of these clones and they all played about the same. Pretty good, but not as easy to play as the real deal. There was also one King 1120 clone at one of the Chinese booths, which was decent. Sadly there were no original mellophones, only the clones.
Marching baritones: Only Yamaha clones. Again Eastman (EMB411S) and BAC both had one, as did a few of the Chinese manufacturer booths. The Eastman was the best I tried, and was lots of fun to play. Reportedly it plays pretty much the same as the real thing.
Eastman EME421S marching euphonium: This is apparently an original design, and not totally thought out as the 2nd valve slide was too long, making it still noticeably flat when pushed all the way in. Additionally, the mouthpiece receiver was forward enough that the bottom bow pushed against my body when I was in playing position. But it sounded nice!
Eastman Geyer double horn (model unknown): Meh.
CONN-SELMER
Conn 88HNV: I was very excited to try this as I play an Elkhart 88H myself. It was…fine. Adequate. Acceptable. Is trombone.
Bach A47BO: Pretty good player but not really my style of trombone, so I didn’t gel with it.
Bach A47XPS: This was nice to play, but the Rejano, Courtois, and Y-Fort trombones did everything it did better.
Bach Bb trumpets: There were around 10 of them, all various flavors of Bach commonly seen, plus a couple of new ones. My favorite was the 190S37X (I think), which played very nicely. The brand new Apollo was good as well, and was probably my 2nd favorite of the bunch. The rest of the Bachs didn’t really work well for me, and they never do!
Conn 8D double horn: I’ve played plenty of 8Ds from all eras. This one was not a great example of the model.
Conn 6D double horn: This is the brand new 6D, which now has a Kruspe wrap like the 8D, but with the small throat and leadpipe of the classic 6D. I liked it!
Conn 10DY double horn: Noooooooooo thanks.
B.A.C. (Best American Craftsman)
BAC small tenor trombones: Played pretty well overall. A couple were very good (my favorite was one in .508” bore with a nickel bell stem but screw bell copper bell flare, and a carbon fiber slide).
BAC large tenor trombone with F attachment: Pretty alright!
BAC 2-valve bass trombone: Trash!
BAC Apprentice student trombone: Difficult high register, but otherwise a decent little horn.
YAMAHA
YBL-835 bass trombone: A brand new Yamaha bass! …Except it looks exactly the same as the outgoing 830. It’s a very noticeable improvement, but is still not an instrument I would ever willingly play or buy. I liked pretty much every other bass there (BAC being the exception) more.
YSL-882OD .547” tenor trombone: Has screw bell. Is otherwise just an 882O. The 882O is fine. Nothing more, nothing less.
YSL-691Z small bore tenor trombone: Hated it immediately lol.
YHR-871D double horn: Sadly Yamaha only brought Geyer horns this time (the 668 Kruspe horn was my favorite horn last time!), but the 871 was still a fabulous instrument. So easy in all registers, especially slurring. Would happily play this as my main horn, even though Geyers aren’t usually my thing.
Yamaha euphoniums: Both the YEP-642SII and YEP-842TS were there, and both were wonderful. My favorite euphs in the show just after the Besson Sovereign.
Yamaha trumpets: They’re all awesome. I particularly loved the YTR-8310Z, but it’s also the one most similar to the older Yamaha trumpet I play on (YTR-737) so it’s not surprising. There were only a few Bbs and one C this year.
V.F. CERVENY
Cerveny VFC-CR 801CQBNPL British-style cornet: I didn’t know what to expect with a Cerveny piston-valved instrument, but this cornet was very good! Not quite as good as the Besson Prestige cornet, but pretty close and for half the price (about $2k vs. $4k). Additionally, the two tuning triggers were much more comfortable for my hands than the Besson’s. They had a red brass model and a nickel-plated yellow brass model, and the red brass was the clear winner (but both were good).
Cerveny VFC-EP7566 II Emperor euphonium: Actually one of the better euphoniums at the show, probably the coolest looking, and the best value for money (less than $5k, vs. $6.3k for the Shires Q41 and much more for a Besson, Willson, or Yamaha). Huge sound, easy to play, good intonation. All good!
Cerveny CCB 603-4R rotary C tuba: I guess this is the famous “Piggy” model of small 4/4 contrabass tuba. It was very easy to and hold play, with a high register easier than the Willson Ebs! Would be a great pit tuba for musicals like Lion King, though I was wishing for a 5th valve.
CANNONBALL
Cannonball TB16 bass trombone: Looked very Jin Bao, but was a perfectly decent instrument. Not something I would ever choose to play, but I’d definitely take it over the BAC bass or Yamaha 835 (which played a little better to me, but is way more expensive).
Cannonball TB18 small bore tenor trombone: Meh.
ZO
ZO was the second most interesting Chinese maker there. They had a ton of interesting instruments, and most were great players. If I could pick a Chinese company to be an artist for, ZO would 100% be it. While many of their standard models are available elsewhere under different brand names (most commonly Thomann’s house brand), ZO also has unique models such as the Little Dragon travel tubas.
ZO plastic trombone (small bore, King style): This was a new model of plastic trombone to me, and even had the King curved bell brace. It also played circles around every other plastic trombone I’ve played…it really played well! I’ve played pBones and Trombas and they were awful compared to this. I would gladly use one of these on a street gig or something, and definitely for practice and travel. While this model is not on the ZO website, it is available at Thomann as the Startone PTB-10.
ZO plastic trombone (large bore, F attachment): This design has been around for a while, and has never been good. It still isn’t…sounds and feels like you’re playing with a sock in the bell.
ZO plastic British-style cornet: Not bad! I probably wouldn’t play a gig on one, but it would be a great car horn, desk horn, travel horn, etc.
ZO plastic trumpet: Played ok, but intonation was all over the place. Can’t recommend…get the cornet instead.
ZO plastic flugelhorn: I used the plastic flugelhorn mouthpiece they had there as I forgot to bring my own flugel piece (which is why I didn’t try all the flugels at NAMM), and it played ok but didn’t sound like a flugel at all. Pretty much sounded the same as the cornet!
ZO plastic double horn (Kruspe wrap): It played and sounded…like a brass horn? Apart from sluggish valves it was honestly a solid horn. I can definitely recommend it for horn players wanting a travel/practice instrument. This is another instrument missing from the ZO website, but the same model is available in a few different colors at Thomann.
ZO plastic euphonium: I was not a fan. It was hard to play, and intonation was not good…and in the opposite way from how it is on normal euphs!
ZO plastic 3/4 piston Bb tuba (brass valves): Pretty solid player, but the sound was nothing I could think of a use for.
ZO plastic 4/4 rotary Bb tuba (all plastic): Meh.
ZO 4-valve British baritone (ZBH-5000): I guess this is the Jin Bao copy of the Yamaha YBH-621 that’s been around for a long time. I own the Jin Bao 3-valve compensating Besson clone which is a fabulous instrument (I’d honestly take one over the Bessons and Yamaha Neos I’ve tried, especially when price is considered), but always assumed the other non-compensating models wouldn’t be as good. I was wrong! This 4-valve model was awesome. Really fun to play, nice colorful sound, and no issues I could find. It was hard to put down! Thomann currently sells this model as the BR 604.
ZO 3-valve British baritone (ZBH-3000): I played this one briefly. I guess it’s a copy of the student model Yamaha YBH-301, and it was alright but definitely a step below the 4-valve model. Still, if you REALLY need a dirt cheap British-style baritone, it wouldn’t be a bad choice.
ZO Kruspe double horn: I wasn’t a huge fan of this one, it felt very covered to play. Definitely one of the worst Kruspe clones at the show.
ZO Alexander 103 clone double horn (ZFH-BF6500): This one was a surprise. I’ve never played a real Alexander 103 or any clones before, so I didn’t know what to expect. I absolutely LOVED it. It was one of my favorite horns at the show and I played it for a long time. Beautiful bright sound that seemed to do exactly what I wanted to. And it was easy to play too! Knowing that I like the 103 style is dangerous for my wallet…
ZO Bb kinderhorn (ZFH-CB3000): This was a small 3-valve single Bb horn meant for children. The reps there asked me to try it and tell them if I noticed any intonation problems. I did not! It actually played and sounded very nice in all registers, and was very comfortable to hold. I’d happily own one of these too, though I don’t know what I would use it for.
ZO Little Dragon travel tubas: I was really excited that these were here, as I really loved them the last time I tried them. They are very compact rotary travel tubas (about the size of a euphonium) with 4 or 5 valves that look like radiators, but have bore and taper dimensions like a full-size tuba (just ending in a very small diameter flare). Well, I loved them just as much as I did last time. Really easy to play in all registers, with a beefy tuba sound that really doesn’t sound any smaller than a 4/4 tuba to my ears. I would absolutely love to own one of these for recording and pit work. They are so much fun, sound awesome, and are so much more convenient size-wise than a normal tuba.
ZO had 4 examples of the travel tuba there. An F, 2 Cs, and one even smaller F. The tiny F was about half the size of the already-tiny normal models! Alas, this one did not play nearly as well because they had to make lots of compromises with the bore and taper (the bell flare in particular looked really odd) to make it that small. There was also no way to hold it even slightly comfortably, and it was hilariously heavy for its size. But I’m glad it it exists, because a 5-valve F tuba that is the size of a flugelhorn (and still sounds more tuba-like than other brands of F travel tuba) is hilarious. Meanwhile, the “normal” models seem to have no compromises at all. They come in F, Eb, C, and Bb with 4 or 5 valves, and the different keys are just different tubing lengths on top of the same bell and chassis. The F is the clear winner to me, not just because I like F the most but because it is the lightest. I tried holding up one of the C models in playing position to try and I physically couldn’t more than a few seconds, while the F was totally manageable.
I’d really love to own one of these travel tubas, but at at least $2,500 retail they still aren’t cheap, especially for a Chinese instrument. Maybe one day!
ZO piston F tuba: After playing on the travel tubas for a while, I thought it would be interesting to try one of ZO’s full-size tubas to compare the feel and sound. I picked the large front-action 5-valve piston F, which seems like a copy of a real model (Miraphone? Meinl Weston? I don’t know tuba models too well). To my tuba doubler ears, it played pretty much just as well as the Willson Eb. It had amazing valves, was comfortable to hold, and sounded very nice. A broader sound than the travel tubas of course, but honestly not by that much. It had me fantasizing about owning a ZO travel F for recording and pit work, and this ZO piston F for ensemble work. There were several other ZO tubas there as well (including the massive ZO Thunderbird 6/4 C Yorkaphone), but I only tried the piston F. Sadly, this model is missing from the ZO website, so I don’t know the model number.
ZO trumpet mutes: They had a red-tipped practice mute and blue-tipped straight mute, both of which I tried with the plastic cornet. The practice mute was VERY soft! Straight mute was fine.
Y-FORT
For all the love I just showed ZO, it seems odd that I listed it as the second most interesting Chinese brand at the show. That’s because right next to the ZO booth was a tiny space for a company I’ve never heard of with a weird name, Y-Fort. Most of their booth was a row of 7 or 8 large bore F-attachment trombones. It was obviously a Chinese company, but at first glance the trombones looked very high quality, with a unique rotor valve, nice bell engravings, and a couple of screw bells and removable leadpipes. I ended up spending a very long time at this tiny booth, because ALL of their trombones were some of the best large bore tenor trombones I’ve ever played from any brand. They were amazing! Really easy to play in all registers with none of the work I normally associate with .547” trombones, beautiful orchestral sound, and quality craftsmanship. I was stunned, and then even more stunned to learn the prices. The top of the range model with the screw bell and removable pipes (YSL-763) is $1,900, while the basic model with fixed bell and pipe (YSL-563) is $1,200.
The most amazing thing is that all of the models played pretty much exactly the same, with very small differences in feel in sound depending on the bell (yellow or gold brass) and whether or not it was screw bell. Even the cheapest 563 model played just as well as the fanciest 763. They were SO consistent and every one was a winner, which means one being really good wasn’t a fluke - they all play like that. Even the student model YSL-260GL student model with a closed wrap and .525” bore on the end was excellent. While I did go back and play the fabulous Courtois 421 tenor again to confirm that the $6,000 trombone does indeed play better than the $1,200 trombone, it really wasn’t by a huge margin. They are so good, in fact, that I put down a deposit for one at the end of the show!
Y-Fort also had a range of trumpets to try, and I tried them all with one of their 3C trumpet mouthpieces. They (both the trumpets and the mouthpiece, actually) were all very good as well, especially the top of the line YTR-740 (Bb) and YTR-741 (C). I honestly thought they were some of the best trumpets at the show.
VICTORY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
This was a company I had only recently discovered, and they had a very large booth with a ton of different trumpets and trombones to try. I was pleasantly surprised!
Victory Crown .508” trombone: They had a few of these, with one in a striking orange and black lacquer. They played very well! I would take one over many of the other small bores at the show, especially when price is considered. With a retail price at under $1,500, I would 100% buy one over a Shires or BAC small bore. They also had one in yellow brass with a Yamaha-style F-attachment and screw bell, which felt much worse in every way. Not sure why, but it just felt dead. The straight horns were great though.
Victory Crown bass trombone: I don’t remember much other than thinking it was pretty good. Would definitely take over the Yamaha 835, BAC, or Cannonball, but not over a Shires Q36 (which is also actually slightly cheaper).
Victory Trumpet of Jesus: Yes, that is it’s real name. It’s hilarious. But, it didn’t play that well to me. :(
Victory Apex Bb trumpet: This was one of the most striking trumpets at the show, with double Shepherd’s crooks and a black and gold finish. It also might have been my favorite-playing trumpet at the show, with the possible exception of the Bach 190S37X. It was excellent, and I really enjoyed playing it. I also have no idea what bore it actually is, because both the label at the show and the website (linked above) say it has a .539” bore, which would be absurdly massive. It certainly didn’t look anywhere near that big, but it did play very open…
PAXMAN
I didn’t spend a ton of time here, just made sure to give most of the horns a decent shakedown. They all played great, of course. Out of the four double horns I played, I would rank them as follows: 20 > 27 > 23 > Academy. The 20 was an absolute joy to play, though still not my favorite horn at the show.
OTHER CHINESE BRANDS
There were a ton of Chinese booths, most with Chinese factory names. There are a couple whose names I remember, such as Hunter (decent King 1120 mellophone clone, ok nickel Kruspe double horn), but many names didn’t stick into my brain.
The Tianjin Master Import & Export Co., Ltd. booth had a double bell trumpet, which was very fun to try (but would have been much more fun if I had had a mute to put in one of the bells) and played well. Most of the rest of the instruments there were not great, but weirdly they had a compensating euphonium which was excellent, up there with the Cerveny. It didn’t seem like a clone either.
The Opus Musical Instruments (also labelled Valkyrie Band Instruments sometimes?) booth had a couple of British-style Eb tenor horns which played nicely, as well as a valve trombone in C (like those used in Mexican banda) which was honestly fantastic. It had a very nice bright sound that almost sounded closer to an alto valve trombone, and was very fun to play. I definitely need to get one of those at some point! (Later I tried another C valve trombone by a banda-oriented brand called Garibaldi, which wasn’t as good.)
THINGS I DIDN’T TRY
Because they weren’t there (but were at previous NAMM Shows): Courtois 402 Xtreme, Getzen/Edwards, Adams, Schilke, Stomvi, Schagerl, Briz, any Conn-Selmer bass trombone, any King trombones
Because they weren’t there (and I wish they had been): Conn-Selmer/Patterson Hornette, Wessex, King marching brass, BAC G bugles, any descant horn
Because they were there but I didn’t get to them: John Packer, Garibaldi tenor horns
CLOSING THOUGHTS
Overall I had a good time and learned a lot, so it was a successful NAMM for brass. This whole NAMM was noticeably smaller than the ones pre-COVID, but still had plenty to sink your teeth into. Can’t wait for January 2024!
Soprano Trombone
Do you want to buy a soprano trombone? Do you want to know why the soprano trombone exists? Do you want to explore the weird world of comically small trombones? If you answered “yes” to any of those questions, this article is for you.
The soprano trombone isn’t as endangered as most of the other instruments I write about on this site, and there is a good amount of information about it online. But I’ll start with a brief summary of what it is in case you’ve discovered it first through this article.
The soprano trombone is a trombone pitched one octave above the standard tenor trombone; in other words, it is pitched the same as a standard B-flat trumpet. It usually has a trumpet shank and can be played with a variety of mouthpieces. Nowadays you can buy extremely affordable Chinese soprano trombones from quite a few vendors, but almost nothing has ever been written for the instrument and professional-quality soprano trombones are very rare. Soprano trombones are sometimes referred to and marketed as slide trumpets; it’s easy to understand why, as the cheap ones are usually made with trumpet parts and they sound like trumpets when played with a trumpet mouthpiece. But the name “slide trumpet” was already taken by an interesting Renaissance trumpet variant centuries before anybody ever applied it to the soprano trombone, so it is better to avoid. Interestingly, in the early 20th century manufacturers sold both “slide trumpets” and “slide cornets”, the only difference being the mouthpiece shank.
Despite being a logical member of a very well-established instrument family, the soprano trombone has almost never been explicitly written for. There are good reasons for this, and good articles and academic publications have written at length about the subject (especially regarding early music). The only place where the soprano trombone gained a permanent foothold was in Moravian trombone choirs, whose core instrumentation was a large mass of trombones from soprano to B-flat contrabass. Even the German Posaunenchor ditches the soprano trombones for Kühlohorns (a variety of rotary flugelhorn) on the top parts, and most trombone choirs do not use anything above alto trombone at all. More recently, the soprano trombone has garnered some attention from its use in jazz by Wycliffe Gordon, but apart from this and the efforts of contemporary classical soloist Torbjörn Hultmark and avant-garde jazz soloist Steven Bernstein, the instrument remains essentially unused in any notable capacity.
In my opinion, there is a simple reason for this: nobody knows what mouthpiece to use for it.
Cheap Chinese soprano trombones always come with a generic 7C trumpet mouthpiece. This makes it sound like an out of tune trumpet and is not desirable. Wycliffe Gordon uses his own custom hybrid mouthpiece with a trombone rim and cup on a trumpet shank, but while you can order these from Chasons, they are very expensive. Someone interested in dipping their toes in the soprano trombone is not likely to want to spend $300 on a mouthpiece for it, especially if its only documented use is by Wycliffe Gordon, who is hardly a normal player like us mere mortals! As a result, the few who do buy soprano trombones typically don’t venture very far off the trumpet mouthpiece path.
I have long held my own theories about what the ideal soprano trombone mouthpiece would be, and I have been able to test some of these theories to favorable results. I used to own an extremely cool soprano trombone, which I have to share here:
This is a handmade German soprano trombone, with a rotor that has slides to put it in A, Ab, G, or F. The rotor is activated by an old-school leather strap rather than a modern paddle, and the bell has a kranz. There is no maker’s mark to be found, and it is likely an exam instrument made by a journeyman apprentice. It is impossibly cool, and I am so thrilled to have owned and played it. It’s gone now, in the hands of someone who will use it more than I did.
Now, on to the mouthpieces. I tried a fleet of mouthpieces on that soprano, to varying degrees of success. These are my findings:
Trumpet mouthpieces: it sounds like a trumpet. Very fun to play this way, and there are certainly musical uses for a trumpet that can do true glissandos and other slidey things, but the goal here is to get a proper trombone sound that fits perfectly on top of alto and tenor trombones. For that, trumpet mouthpieces are not the way.
Bach 9AT alto trumpet mouthpiece: I always thought this would be the solution, but thanks to its oversized shank (it is not just a normal trumpet shank!), it does not work very well in the soprano. It does get an amazing beefy trombone sound, but it is very difficult to play high on, so much so that it offers no real improvement in range over an alto trombone.
Schilke 24 trumpet mouthpiece: This is a massive trumpet mouthpiece, somewhere in between any normal-sized trumpet mouthpiece and the Bach 9AT above (inner diameter 18.29mm). I thought it might do well, but it ended up being nearly as hard to play as the 9AT but with a thinner sound. Not the move.
Denis Wick 2 alto horn mouthpiece: even harder to play on than the 9AT, which is not surprising as the DW 2 is the biggest alto horn mouthpiece Denis Wick makes. It is BEEFY.
Kelly 3W alto horn mouthpiece: the Kelly is a deeper British-style alto horn mouthpiece like the Wick 2, but it is significantly lighter (being plastic) and is not as large or deep. The result works well in the soprano. The tone is nice and dark, with a trombone-like broadness. Range is good too, with a comfortable range up to Bb5. It still feels too deep both from a sound and effort perspective, but it doesn’t feel too far off the mark for a broad classical soprano trombone sound. The alto horn-sized rim also feels right for instrument, and my bass trombonist face certainly appreciates the additional room.
Marching mellophone mouthpieces: I tried 3 of my marching mellophone mouthpieces (Hammond 5MP, Benge Mello 6V, CKB Mello 6) and they all worked about as well. These get a bright sound that is definitely not the right move for classical playing, but for playing jazz on top of small tenor trombones the sound feels just about perfect. There is lots of snap and sizzle to the sound, but it is still much fatter and noticeably more trombone-like than with a trumpet mouthpiece. Articulations also sound like a trombone rather than a trumpet, and the range is unaffected with an easy C6.
Holton 55 alto horn mouthpiece: after my experiences with all of the above, I had postulated that an American alto horn mouthpiece with a shallower bowl cup might be the perfect solution. So far, I think my hypothesis was on the money. It has a nice fat tromboney sound like the bigger options above, but I can still play comfortably up to around high Bb and it works nicely all over the horn without too much effort (unlike any of those others).
Although I still have not tried every possible kind of mouthpiece yet, I feel that I’ve found a solid formula for both sound and playability that gives the instrument a unique trombone voice: American alto horn mouthpiece for classical, marching mellophone mouthpiece for jazz. That said, there are a few more options I still have to explore the next time I own a soprano:
German flugelhorn mouthpiece - German flugelhorns use a shank essentially identical to a trumpet shank, so you can use them on anything with a trumpet shank (like soprano trombone). German flugelhorn mouthpieces are also generally not quite as deep as the dark, rich Denis Wick-style flugelhorn mouthpieces, nor are they as shallow and thin as Bach-style bowl cup flugelhorn mouthpieces. It could be a really nice middle ground that would mesh well with the soprano trombone, and given the history of rotary flugelhorns being used in their place, it seems like it would be a good fit.
Curry TF/ACB FX - these hybrid trumpet mouthpieces with deep flugel-like cups are an interesting option. I’m not very confident that they would be the right move, but considering how well the marching mellophone mouthpieces work I could be wrong.
Chasons hybrid trombone/trumpet mouthpiece - this is the kind of mouthpiece Wycliffe uses on soprano trombone. While I would love to try one of these, they are very expensive and I’m not motivated to spend that kind of money on a possible soprano trombone mouthpiece!
As you can see, I didn’t quite complete my soprano trombone mouthpiece safari. But I did get some excellent results that gave the instrument a proper soprano trombone voice, and I would encourage other soprano trombone owners to expand your horizons beyond trumpet mouthpieces to get the most out of your instrument.
Of course, there is also the question of what soprano trombone to buy if you don’t already have one. Fortunately, there are not too many choices to be confused by and I’ll give you a quick summary of each.
Cheap Chinese sopranos - if you just want a soprano to mess around with for fun or to see if you have any interest in pursuing the instrument further, this is the tier you should be looking at. There are a million different brands, but you should ignore them all and buy the Thomann SL-5. Why? Because they are all the exact same instrument, and the Thomann is the cheapest by a significant margin. It’s VERY cheap, so if you really want a soprano and don’t want to budget very much for it your search ends here. Even used Chinese sopranos cost more than this.
Jupiter 314 - this was the most popular entry-level soprano when it was in production, as it came before all the cheap Chinese ones. They are no longer made, but you can find them used occasionally for around the same price as most new Chinese sopranos ($200-300). The Thomann is still much cheaper, but you probably won’t get a bad example with a Jupiter and it will hold its value better.
Carol Brass CTB-1005-YSS-Bb-L - In addition to being made by the good maker that is Carol Brass, the CTB-1005 is superior to any cheaper soprano for one big reason. All the Chinese sopranos and the Jupiter 314 are tuned via the tenon attaching the bell to the slide, which is the cheapest and worst method. The CTB-1005, on the other hand, has proper leadpipe tuning like a flugelhorn. As far as affordable sopranos go, it is far and away the best option. Its price varies depending on the retailer; it lists at $479 at Carol Brass of the Rockies, but $900 at Austin Custom Brass.
Carol Brass CTB-2005-GLS-GL - Carol’s mind-numbing alphanumeric naming scheme makes it seem like this should be a simple variation of the above soprano trombone, but this is actually a completely new model, recently introduced. Notably, it is pitched in G rather than B-flat! It uses the bell (including that big shepherd’s crook) from the maker’s Phat Puppy flugelhorn, and does sound much more flugel-like than most soprano trombones. A very interesting new development for the soprano!
Miraphone 63 - this is the only factory professional-level soprano trombone on sale today. I haven’t played one so I don’t know how well it plays, but at $2300 this is really only an option to the most dedicated players.
Thein - this is probably a soprano that is really worth the money, but it is a LOT of money. If you absolutely must have the very best soprano money can buy, this is your ticket.
Custom - honestly, if you have a tech you trust and access to a cornet bell and a small bore trombone slide, I would rather get one custom made than buy a cheap factory instrument. You can make it whatever bore you want, whatever mouthpiece shank you want, add a valve if you want, and so on. It will probably play at least as well as a new Chinese instrument and be infinitely cooler.
Vintage Used - Occasionally, used sopranos from the early 20th century will turn up for sale online, often for prices in the new Chinese range. If they are in decent shape and going for the right price, they could be a good option. The one model I would avoid is the DEG/Getzen with the ultra-narrow handslide.
Minick - The famed brass maker Larry Minick made a few sopranos, including a few with valves for studio players. They are extremely rare today.
Wessex PB455 - The PB455 was a large bore (.500”) soprano with F attachment that Wessex only very briefly offered on their website. It was removed almost immediately due to quality issues. They sadly never fixed the issues and relaunched the product, though the owner of Wessex did tell me a few years ago that you could still custom order one if you wanted.
Brazilian Slide Bugles
In low brass circles, the topic of “slide euphonium” is occasionally brought up. Do they exist? Is it even physically possible?
The answer is usually “no” to both counts, and to be fair that’s technically correct if you’re trying to preserve the euphonium’s conical bore throughout. You could try a variation of E.A. Couturier’s conical trombone slides I suppose, but that would be unlikely to even be functional on a wide-bore cone like a euphonium.
The real, better answer is “kind of.”
A euphonium with a full-length 7-position slide is impossible. However, you could easily make a “slide euphonium” by putting an appropriately-sized cylindrical handslide with 1-3 positions early in the tubing. It would physically work, but the euphonium would be drastically less conical than a valved one. This would likely result in an intonation nightmare and a sound noticeably different from a normal euphonium, not to mention understandable debates on whether it still qualifies as a euphonium at all.
What’s more interesting than all that is that the instrument just described not only exists but is performed with regularly. Welcome to the wacky world of the Brazilian cornetão gatilho, or slide bugle.
These instruments are used in Brazilian carnival music in sizes from soprano to bass. The two largest members of the family are slide euphoniums!
There is almost nothing about these instruments on the English-speaking Internet, which is the main reason I wrote this article. What I have been able to find from Brazilian websites are the following instruments:
There are also cornetão with just one whole-step piston valve and no handslide (including in odd keys like G), and others with no handslide OR piston. However, it seems that the cornetão gatilho with just the slide is the standard.
Far be it from me to just talk about these instruments. Here is a Facebook video of them in action. This band looks like it includes sopranos, tenors, and the bass euphoniums (which seem to be in E-flat based on the slide positions). Although it presents more intonation challenges, I think the short handslide is an intriguing solution to the “make bugles be able to play more notes” problem that North American drum and bugle corps tackled in a different way.
This is the extent of what I’ve been able to find online (as a non-Portuguese speaker) about this family of instruments. If you are Brazilian and know more about them or have experience playing them yourself, please feel free to reach out to me! I would love to learn more about the history and common practice of these instruments.
Mutes
Brass instrument mutes are amazing tools and are lots of fun, but can be daunting for a new player or a composer to dive into. There are so many different kinds out there. If you’ve ever asked yourself “what mutes do I need?” or “what mutes can I write for?”, or if you’re just curious about mutes in general, you’re in the right place.
MUTE TYPES
Straight
The straight mute is by far the most commonly used mute in band and orchestra music, and is what you use when the part simply says “mute” or “con sord.” without any further description. In jazz it is less common than cup, Harmon, or plunger, but still good to have around for the Swing Era or David Baker charts that call for it. The modern default is a metal (usually aluminum) straight mute, but fiber and wooden straight mutes are also used in certain circumstances. In general, metal mutes sound the brightest, wooden mutes the darkest, and fiber somewhere in the middle. They are all noticeably different sounds, and occasionally a composer will specify the material of straight mute desired. Most of the time however, brass players will choose what straight mute to use on their own. It is common for trumpet players especially to own a few different straight mutes for different purposes.
The three most popular brands of metal straight mute for trumpets and trombones are Jo-Ral, Denis Wick, and Tom Crown. Any are good choices, but I tend to favor the Jo-Ral. Tom Crowns sound great but do not have a felt ring on the small end, making it much easier to put dents in your bell, and make a racket while doing so. Of course, those three brands are far from the only metal straight mutes out there. I have a Humes & Berg aluminum trombone straight mute that is wonderful, especially considering H&B is not really known for its metal mutes!
If you are a freelance trumpet or trombone player, it is a good idea to eventually pick up a Humes & Berg Stonelined fiber straight mute. Like its cup mute sibling, the H&B has a unique sound that is sometimes desirable in jazz. Nowadays it’s not nearly as common to need one as it once was, as metal straight mutes have become the accepted default even in jazz. That said, I have needed my H&B on few gigs, including one where the bandleader explicitly called for “Stonelined straight mute” in the part. Plus, they are very inexpensive so it won’t set you back that much to get one.
In the French horn world, the straight mute is the only mute ever called for. Unlike with trumpets or trombones, horn players typically always use wooden mutes as they match the instrument far better than the other types (though fiber and metal horn mutes do exist). Ion Balu makes a fabulous horn mute, but there are a few others (Marcus Bonna for example).
Cup
Cup mutes are the most common mute in big band jazz, and are the second most common (but a distant second) elsewhere. In jazz, the classic red and white Humes & Berg Stonelined fiber cup mute is the default, and nearly always the desired sound. Any jazz brass player absolutely must own a Stonelined cup mute.
While still ubiquitous in jazz for its unique sound, the H&B Stonelined is outdated (and can even be seen as amateurish) in the classical realm. In orchestra and band, the standard is the Denis Wick adjustable cup mute. This mute is a mixture of metal and fiber, and the cup can be removed to give a passable fiber straight mute. As any working classical trumpet or trombone player will have a Denis Wick cup mute on hand, writing for and specifying fiber straight mute is a safe bet. Additionally, as the Wick is an adjustable cup, writing for “tight cup” and other specific settings is also safe. Markings for “tight cup” do appear from time to time in jazz and Broadway shows, so jazz and commercial players will often carry a Wick adjustable cup in addition to their Stonelined. The Wick cup is not the only adjustable cup out there, and a player may prefer a different brand. But even if you use a different adjustable cup when you are the only player on your instrument, you should also have a Wick to match with a section. Matching mutes is advisable whenever possible.
There are cup mutes (as well as bucket mutes) for French horn, euphonium, tuba, and even British tenor horn and baritone horn. However, these are very rare and almost never called for, so it is best to avoid writing for them unless you are writing for a specific player or ensemble that has them. Similarly, as a player you will never show up to a gig with “cup mute” written on your euphonium part unless you play in a high-level British brass band that probably owns their own set, so you don’t need to buy one unless you want to. (And I don’t blame you for that…they sound extremely cool!)
Plunger
The humblest of mutes. There are plenty of specialty “plunger mutes” out there made of metal, fiber, or rubber, but the best plungers are still the bendy red ones from a hardware store. This also means they cost literally a dollar or two, so no player of a bell-front brass instrument should ever be without one. If you are playing Ellington and similar older big band music, you may need a pixie mute (typically an H&B Stonelined) to compliment your plunger.
Harmon
The Harmon mute is so named (with a capital “H”) because the original comes from the Harmon brand. Also called a “wah-wah” mute, the Harmon has a very unique sound with or without the stem. (As a composer, when writing for Harmon you should always specify “Harmon mute - stem in” or “Harmon mute - stem out” in the part. Or even “stem extended” if you’re really daring!) Although there are Harmon mutes for trombone and bass trombone, they are used very rarely. They sound very different from the trumpet Harmon, which is extremely common in jazz.
In jazz, the Harmon is almost never used with the stem, so much so that big band charts often don’t specify stem in or out - it is always assumed the stem is out. You can find stem in or out in Broadway shows, and in the rare occasions when Harmon is called for in classical music, it is usually with the stem in. There are quite a few trumpet Harmon mutes out there, including the original Harmon B Model. The Jo-Ral “bubble mute” Harmon is likely the most popular, and plays easier than the original Harmon. Jo-Ral also makes a bubble mute for flugelhorn! Needless to say, it is very unnecessary like all flugelhorn mutes…but it is very cool regardless.
For composers, writing for trumpet Harmon is normal in jazz, and fairly safe in band or orchestra. It is a standard mute in the trumpeter’s quiver, and only trumpet players who ONLY play classical might not own one. Writing for trombone Harmon is more risky, as many trombone players don’t have one. But plenty of contemporary orchestral and trombone choir music has made extensive use of trombone Harmons, so there is certainly precedent for it.
Bucket
The bucket mute is an interesting beast. Much like the cup mute, the Humes & Berg Stonelined bucket (called the Velvet-Tone) is still desirable in jazz for the sound. However, the Velvet-Tone is by far the most cumbersome and time-consuming bucket mute to attach and remove. This is not good for things like Broadway parts which are littered with notoriously quick mute changes, so trumpeters and trombonists usually start with a quicker bucket mute like the Jo-Ral and pick up an H&B later. The reason for having both is that the Jo-Ral bucket especially sounds VERY different from the H&B. This effect is most pronounced on trumpet, but present on trombone as well. The Jo-Ral bucket sound can be desirable (Wynton Marsalis often uses one when soloing), but it is generally not the desired sound for jazz section work.
Solo-Tone
In my opinion one of the coolest mutes out there, the solo-tone makes you sound like you’re playing through an old Gramophone. It is an acoustic “lo-fi” mute! However, it is also mostly absent from a trumpet or trombone player’s needs; the one place where Solo-Tone is frequently called for is Broadway, so if you play a lot of musical pit gigs, you’ll need to pick one up. It is generally a mute that brass players will not own otherwise, but I think more people should as it’s a lovely sound. The original Solo-Tone mute was made by Shastock and original ones are rare and fetch high prices, so most players use a new production mute made by one of a few brands such as Humes & Berg, Emo, TrumCor, Walt Johnson, and Warburton. If you don’t have a Solo-Tone mute and a part that calls for one lands on your stand (which can be marked “Solo-Tone” or “wood mute” in shows), use a Harmon mute with the stem in as a substitute.
Practice
Practice mutes are designed to make your sound as quiet as possible, so you can practice in places you otherwise would be too loud to play in (hotels, apartments, warming up backstage, etc.). There are a ton of practice mutes out there, and which one is best comes down to personal preference. They are not intended to be performance mutes, and don’t give a pleasing tone quality to be used as one in my opinion. Still, that hasn’t stopped some contemporary composers from writing for practice mutes in their brass parts. Practice mutes range from expensive and clever mutes like the Yamaha Silent Brass series, to DIY practice mutes made from a $2 Renuzit air freshener. I have both and several in between, and they all have their place. If you’re looking for a cheap practice mute (that isn’t made from an air freshener), I use and heartily recommend the Pampet practice mutes from Amazon. They are very affordable at $19 (trumpet) and $20 (trombone), and I prefer them over many much more expensive practice mutes.
Whisper
Whisper mutes are rare. Few manufacturers make them (Bremner and Emo are the two I know of) and not much is written about them. They are essentially practice mutes adjusted to be legitimate performance mutes that are louder and have better tone quality than a real practice mute, but can also be used as a practice mute in a pinch. I have never seen a whisper mute explicitly specified in a part, but it’s probably out there.
Buzz
Originally a model from Humes & Berg called the “Buzz-Wow” that is now very rare, the buzz mute essentially makes your instrument sound like a kazoo. Hirschman currently makes a buzz mute for trumpet and trombone called the Chicago Stinger, and you can get buzzers on Huber’s straight and pixie trumpet mutes. Daniel Schnyder’s subZERO bass trombone concerto calls for one, and performers of the piece have made their own using an old cone-shaped mute and a few kazoos. The legendary vintage trombone guru DJ Kennedy also made a few in a similar way.
Derby
Also called a “hat mute”, this kind of mute was originally an actual derby hat hung from the music stand or manually operated like a plunger. Nowadays players usually use actual derby mutes designed for the purpose, but apart from period jazz ensembles it is rare today for hat mutes to be used. Typically “in hat” instructions are ignored or faked by simply pointing the bell into the music stand. Although hats show up quite often in Swing Era big band charts, owning your own derby mute is not very common.
Others
While the above mutes cover anything you could possibly be asked to play, there are a few other types of mutes out there. These include the Emo megaphone mute, the Humes & Berg Stonelined 127 satellite mute, and a few custom homemade mutes. The aforementioned DJ Kennedy had a few trombone mutes made out of trumpet bells (“Trump-O-Tone”) and clarinet bells (“Clari-Tone”) that offer a unique sound. I own a Clari-Tone that I bought from DJ, and it sounds like a cross between a straight mute and bucket mute.
FIRST MUTES
If you are just starting your mute collection, these are the types of mutes I’d recommend.
Trumpet (band/orchestra): Jo-Ral aluminum straight mute, Denis Wick adjustable cup mute
Trumpet (jazz): Humes & Berg Stonelined cup mute, Jo-Ral bubble mute, hardware store 4” sink plunger
French Horn: Ion Balu or Marcus Bonna wooden straight mute
Trombone (band/orchestra): Jo-Ral aluminum straight mute, Denis Wick adjustable cup mute
Trombone (jazz): Humes & Berg Stonelined cup mute, hardware store toilet plunger
Bass Trombone (band/orchestra): Jo-Ral aluminum straight mute, Denis Wick adjustable cup mute
Bass Trombone (jazz): Humes & Berg Stonelined 199 Mic-A-Mute, hardware store toilet plunger
Euphonium: Denis Wick aluminum straight mute
Tuba: Denis Wick aluminum straight mute
ESSENTIAL CAREER MUTES
These are the mutes essential for any gigging freelance brass player. My brand recommendations are in parentheses.
Trumpet: metal straight (Jo-Ral), fiber straight (TrumCor), fiber cup (Humes & Berg Stonelined), adjustable cup (Denis Wick), Harmon (Jo-Ral), plunger (4” hardware store), bucket (Humes & Berg Stonelined Velvet-Tone), solo-tone (Shastock or Humes & Berg Stonelined Clear-Tone)
French Horn: wooden straight mute (Ion Balu or Marcus Bonna), stop mute (Tom Crown)
Trombone/Bass Trombone: metal straight (Jo-Ral), fiber cup (Humes & Berg Stonelined), adjustable cup (Denis Wick), plunger (hardware store), bucket (Humes & Berg Stonelined Velvet-Tone AND a quicker one, such as Jo-Ral)
Euphonium: straight (Ion Balu)
Tuba: straight (Schlipf)
MUTE COMPATIBILITY
If you’re into weird brass instruments as much as I am, you’ve probably thought about using them with mutes. Here are all the compatibilities I’ve found.
Bass Trumpet: small trombone or flugelhorn mutes (which one works better depends on the model)
DEG Alto Cornet: flugelhorn mutes
Dynasty G Soprano Bugle: NOT most trumpet mutes (throat is too large!)
Getzen Frumpet: bass trombone mutes
Flugabone: small trombone mutes
Kanstul G Alto Bugle: large trombone mutes
Marching Mellophone: tenor or bass trombone mutes, depending on the specific mute
Mellophonium: tenor or bass trombone mutes, depending on the specific mute (except plunger and wa-wa effects on a Harmon, because the reach is too far)
Soprano Trombone: some trumpet mutes
MUTE RECIPES
Oboe substitute: trumpet (C or E-flat) with wood or fiber straight mute
English horn substitute: flugelhorn with cup mute or trumpet (B-flat) with dark-sounding cup mute
Bassoon substitute: trombone, bass trombone, or flugabone/valve trombone (depending on passage) with cup mute
Clarinet substitute: trumpet with bucket mute (ideally wood)
MUTE MANUFACTURERS
aS
Bach
Best Brass
Beversdorf (rare vintage metal straight mutes for tenor and bass trombone, with the darkest sound of any metal straight mute I’ve heard)
Brass Spa
Bremner/sshhmute (practice mutes and a whisper mute)
Care for Winds
Charles Davis
Clary Woodmutes (wooden trumpet mutes)
DEM-BRO
Denis Wick
Eazy Bucket (H&B-style bucket mutes that are easier to attach/remove)
Emo (a wide range of affordable plastic mutes)
Engemann (traditional wooden mutes)
Facet (unique wooden mutes)
Faxx
Harmon
Hawkins
Hickman
Hirschman (buzz mutes and plunger mutes)
Horn-Crafts Mutes
Huber Mutes
Humes & Berg (creators of both the iconic Stonelined red-and-white fiber mutes and a line of “Symphonic” aluminum mutes)
Ion Balu (wooden mutes)
Ira Nepus (innovative Softone rubber mute that can be a bucket or practice mute)
Jo-Ral (originally Alessi-Vacchiano)
Marcus Bonna
MG Leather Work
Michael Rath (metal trombone and bass trombone mutes)
Mike McLean (a full range of fiberglass mutes for all British brass band instruments)
Mutec
Okura+mute
On-Stage
Pampet (affordable practice mutes)
Peter Gane
P&H
Pöltl (Esser Dämpferbau)
Powerstopf (French horn stop mute)
Pro Line (light fiber mutes)
ProTec
Ray Robinson (a vintage mute maker with highly desirable fiber jazz mutes)
Rejano (trombone practice mutes)
RGC Mutes
Schlipf (tuba mutes)
Shastock (makers of the original Solo-Tone)
Soulo
Thomann
Tools 4 Winds
Tom Crown
Trapani (a new high-quality 3D-printed mute company)
TrumCor (high-quality black fiber mutes used frequently by orchestral trumpeters)
Ullvén
Upmute
Vhizzper (practice mutes)
Voigt Brass
Wallace (a full range of metal mutes)
Walt Johnson
Warburton
Windy City
Yamaha (mostly known for the Silent Brass practice mutes, though they do make other kinds of mutes as well)
Valve Tuning Theory
There is a small tuba-oriented website that offers a fascinating valve tuning/fingering calculator for download. It will take the valve tubing lengths (as proportional to the overall length of the instrument) you input and spit out every possible fingering, what pitch would result, and how close to in tune that pitch would be. As someone who enjoys brass instruments, numbers, and spreadsheets, I had to download it right away. Since then, I’ve spent many hours trying countless theoretical valve combinations and recording the results. I would hate for my findings to only exist in my downloaded copy of an Excel spreadsheet, so here we are.
It is important to clarify that the calculator only models the 2nd partial, as it was designed originally to figure out what valve lengths work best for low register intonation on tuba. On a real instrument, if the tubing is cut to the correct length the modeled tuning tendencies will also be correct. However, this accounts only for that 2nd partial, and all brass instruments have partials less in tune than others. So things like the viability of alternate fingerings in the upper register can’t be predicted. Additionally, all brass instruments have a zone in which the note you’re aiming for locks in, called a “slot”, rather than fixed points at which each note sits. It is still up to the player to tune the instrument and individual valves properly, and then hit the center of the slots to play in tune.
That said, a theoretically-perfect valve configuration will make the player’s job much easier, and eliminate the need to manipulate valve slides while playing or lip out-of-tune valve combinations into tune. Thus the goal for fully-chromatic instrument is to find a configuration where every note in the 2nd partial all the way down to (at least) the note a half-step above the 1st partial fundamental is as close to perfectly in tune as possible. On a 9’ tenor B-flat instrument such as euphonium, this means Bb2 down to B1 (with Bb1 being the fundamental). Of course, fingerings will also work the same in higher partials, with the player only having to compensate for the individual instrument’s partial quirks. (Typically: 3rd partial slightly sharp, 6th partial very sharp, 7th partial unusably flat. The other partials vary more between individual instrument models, such as the 5th partial being flat on some trombones and sharp on others.)
It is also important to clarify that on some instruments, especially smaller ones like trumpets, it is often much more practical to have a slide kicker or two than have a totally different valve system. This is why the standard 3 valves are so ideal on trumpet and flugelhorn, despite being a very imperfect configuration in the absence of slide kickers/triggers. But for large instruments like tubas, getting the valve configuration as close to as perfect without manipulation is more valuable.
Let’s start with six valves. The obvious disadvantage to six valves is that you have a lot of valves to work with. Not every instrument will have room for them, and of course more valves = more cost. However, six valves provide multiple near-perfect configurations that any fewer valves cannot match.
The first and most logical system is the standard 6-valve setup. This is the setup seen on all modern 6-valve F tubas, and consists of 3 normal valves (whole step, half step, 1.5 steps), normal 4th valve (perfect 4th), a long whole step 5th valve, and a long half step 6th valve. (A "long step” is one that is in tune with the 4th valve down. So on a B-flat instrument, a long whole step would be a whole step in F.) When plugged into the calculator, the most optimal fingerings end up as follows:
For everything in this calculator, I set it to a 9’ B-flat instrument such as euphonium, as that is what I am the most familiar with. Additionally, the 3rd valve is always tuned for 2-3 to be in tune (slightly lower than tuning to just 3) except where noted.
I was most concerned about the 4th valve register, as the first 3 valves are a known entity and work well enough. They aren’t perfectly in tune, but brass players are used to compensating for that. So, although the calculator spits out every possible fingering starting at the first note below the open 2nd partial (in this case A2) and goes down as far as the valves will take it, I only input the optimal 4th valve register results for the sake of clarity. These are not the ONLY possible fingerings, but the most in-tune. The left column shows the note, the right column shows the fingering, and the middle column shows how close to in tune that fingering is. “9-” means the note is 9 cents flat, while “1+” means it’s 1 cent sharp. For reference, the standard 1-2 fingering is 10 cents sharp, so these are all well within acceptable deviation. Not perfect, but close enough. Adding up all of the middle column (in tune = 0) gives a deviation score of 19.
As if it wasn’t already not good enough, you can further optimize this configuration. By shortening the long half step 6th valve by about 1.39”/35.39mm so that 13456 is in tune, you get the following beautiful result:
This has a deviation score of just 7 and is the closest to perfection that I have found. It requires no new fingerings and is so close that it might as well be perfect. You could even make the 6th valve dependent on the 4th or the 1st if you wanted.
To be frank, you could stop reading here if you just wanted to grab the best solution and run. It’s already standard, it’s near-perfect, it just works. But we’re just getting started!
The next 6-valve configuration we’ll look at is one of my favorites.
This configuration uses the same first 5 valves as the standard 6-valve arrangement, but the 6th valve is an ascending whole step. Ascending valves are relatively rare, but can be very useful. Although less familiar than the unoptimized standard 6-valve setup, this setup scores a slightly better deviation score of 17.
Now, if you have an instrument that you want to punch well above its weight (or more accurately length) in terms of low-end prowess, it turns out the old French tuba in C (as written for in Ravel’s famous orchestration of Pictures at an Exhibition) had a very competent valve system for doing just that. Taking that template and updating it to use a modern 3rd valve (1.5-step instead of the old 2-step), and you get the following:
To clarify, this configuration includes 4 normal valves, a long half step 5th valve, and a perfect-5th 6th valve. Apart from the 1.5-step 3rd valve, it is the same as the original French instruments. As you can see, it takes you far lower than a modern 6 valve setup could, thanks to the quint valve. It’s not the most in tune in that pedal-replacement register, but we can improve that by making the 5th valve a long whole step instead of a long half step, thereby resulting in a standard 5-valve configuration plus the P5 6th valve:
While neither of these setups are as ideal as the standard 6-valve setup, higher-pitched instruments intended to still be able to play commandingly down to the pedal register and below could benefit from such a setup. The Half-Modern setup (long half step 5th) works better above the bonus pedal-replacement register, with a deviation score of 16 above Bb1, while the Modern setup (long whole step 5th) works better in the bonus pedal-replacement register but significantly worse above it (scoring a deviation score of 26). Still, even 26 is very usable in the real world.
These four configurations are the only ones that I classified as optimal, denoted by the green background underneath the configuration name. Any of them would be an excellent choice. There were unsurprisingly some excellent 7-valve configurations, but they didn’t provide any real advantage over the best 6-valve setups so I didn’t consider them optimal. Here are most of the other 4, 5, 6, and 7 valve configurations I tested and their derivation scores (all ignoring any bonus pedal-replacement notes):
Modern French Tuba 6 with ascending whole step 3rd valve (a la true French double horns): 26 (great except for D2, at 17 cents sharp)
Standard 6+Long 1.5-step 7th (aka 3 normal valves, normal 4th, and 3 long valves in tune at the length of the 4th valve; functions the same as a full double instrument but with more fingering possibilities): 9 (almost perfect, but…the optimized standard 6 is even better with one fewer valve. Still, if you have 7 valves lying around…)
3+3 (3 normal valves, 3 long valves; aka the setup above but without the 4th valve): 45
Modern French Tuba 6+ascending whole step 7th: 13 (SO not worth the trouble)
Modern French Tuba 6 with ascending whole step 5th: 15
Modern French Tuba 6+long half step 7th, tritone 7th, or Major 3rd 7th: they became clear it was so not worth it I didn’t even progress far enough to get a derivation score
Standard 5 valves (long whole step 5th): 48
Standard 5 with ascending whole step 3rd: 38
Standard 4 valves: 77 (and that’s not including the non-existent low B and so-bad-it-might-as-well-be-non-existent low C!)
Standard 4 with ascending whole step 3rd: 41 (no low D or Db)
Standard 4+perfect-5th 5th valve: 59
Standard 4+ascending whole step 5th: 66
Standard 4+tritone 5th: 65
Standard 4+Major 3rd 5th (2 whole steps): 96
Standard 3+P5 4th+ascending 5th: 54
Standard 3+tritone 4th+ascending 5th: 50
Standard 3+Major 3rd 4th+ascending 5th: 87
Standard 3+tritone 4th: 88 (…and still no low B)
The moral of the story is that I couldn’t find a single configuration with less than 6 valves that was any good. The standard 5-valve setup with the long whole step 5th was the best of the lot, but still several dimensions behind any of the good 6-valve setups. The situation with only 4 valves was even more dire. Regarding possible 4 to 7 valve configurations starting with the normal first 3 valves, I think we can pretty safely close the book with our knowledge of the Four Good Tunings™.
…however…
…what if you DON’T start with the normal first 3 valves?
While pondering what one could do with a 2-valve G bugle to make it fully chromatic in a way that’s not annoying, I had an idea and spontaneously invented a beautiful 2+2 valve system that has the same range as a normal 3 valves and eliminates the need for any slide kickers or adjustment.
First, let’s take a look at the standard 3 valves for comparison. When the 3rd valve is tuned to 2-3, you have 0, 2, and 1 in tune, 12 at 10 cents sharp, 3 at 16 cents flat, 4 in tune, 13 at 15 cents sharp, and 123 at 38 cents sharp. It is hardly a good system on paper, with a derivation score within that partial of 79. Of course, kickers solve all of this…but not every instrument has room (physically or ergonomically) for even one kicker.
My 2+2 system works as follows. The first two valves are your standard 2 valves (whole step and half step), as found on any 3 valve set with the 3rd valve ignored, or any 2-piston G bugle. The next two valves are also a whole and half step to start, but tuned very specifically. The third valve is tuned so that 123 = an in-tune 1+3 fingering on a normal valve set. This means lengthening the slide from its standard whole step position by about 3.22”/81.75mm on a 9’ B-flat instrument. The fourth valve is tuned so that 124 = an in-tune 2+3 fingering on a normal valve set. This means lengthening the slide from its standard whole step position by about 1.93”/49.10mm on a 9’ B-flat instrument.
The result?
A derivation score of 12.
Additionally, 2-valve G bugles have a kicker on the 1st valve slide that kicks inward, in order to bring the 7th partial 1st-valve note (which is extremely flat, and able to be completely avoided on 3-valve instruments) up to pitch. Given as the 2+2 configuration was designed specifically for 2-valve G bugle valve sets that would otherwise be useless, it is likely then that a 2+2 instrument would have at least one inward kicker on the 1st valve. On the data above, 1+2 is listed as the fingering for G2 because it is the closest to being in tune. As it is sharp and not flat, an inward kicker wouldn’t help. However, 1+4 is another available fingering, which is 16 cents flat. The inward kicker, long enough to bring a note a full quarter step flat into tune, would undoubtedly be able to bring that 1+4 fingering up to pitch.
Having this 2+2 valve block as a base opens up another world of possibilities with additional valves. So far I have run through 15 configurations with 6 valves (2+2+2?), and while none are perfect, nearly all of them are very good and several are among the closest to perfection of any configuration I’ve found thus far.
Of course, none of those configurations is that practical. Even just the 2+2 system requires learning a new fingering pattern, even though it is arguably more logical than the usual 3 valve pattern. The basic pattern of the left hand 3rd and 4th valve is identical to the right hand 1st and 2nd. But the 2+2 system is only worth doing over a standard valve set in a very specific circumstance involving 2-piston G bugles.
What makes it even more viable for that context is that the 3rd and 4th valves can be made dependent of the 1st and 2nd. Since every standard fingering involving 3 or 4 has both 1 and 2 down, 3 and 4 can be inset in those valves’ tubing. What this means is that you could set both valves in alternate slides that plug in to the existing valves’ valve slides, without modifying the original bugle in any way. And because the valves are dependent, the bugle would feel exactly the same to play until you used one of the additional valves.
Eventually, I would love to be able to 3D-print 2-valve sets for G bugles and sell them so that players could slot them into their 2-valve bugles whenever they needed the missing pitches. A +2 valve set would drastically expand the musical possibilities of a 2-valve bugle, and would do so without altering the original instrument in any way. What’s not to like?
Cellophone
The cellophone is one of the rarest and least-known competition bugles in G, made by DEG Dynasty in 1984. It is really just a flugabone in G, and was based on Dynasty’s B-flat flugabone (which they called a “Marching Trombone”), itself a derivation of the original King 1130 flugabone.
The principal production run of the cellophone was a single group of four 2-valve instruments, built for and used briefly by the Phantom Regiment drum and bugle corps. No further 2-valve cellophones were built.
However, there are currently also a handful of known 3-valve cellophones, which were presumably made for the European market.
If you really want a cellophone, the easy way would be to get a normal B-flat flugabone and add tubing to get it down to G (as this is what Dynasty did). For the 2-valve cellophone experience, you could even just clamp down the 3rd valve and tune the first two valves appropriately. Dynasty flugabones rarely show up for sale (and the King flugabone pattern is not the only model of Dynasty marching trombone out there!), but fortunately there are quite a few King 1130s floating around. The King is likely the better instrument, but a less authentic base for a cellophone.
I have not played or heard a cellophone myself, so I can’t comment on the sound or how it compares to my King flugabone. But based on how B-flat marching baritones compare to the ones in G, I can’t imagine it’s a huge difference.
Nirschl Mellophone
You’d be forgiven if you didn’t know that Nirschl, the esteemed German brass instrument manufacturer responsible for lots of enormous 6/4 CC tubas, once sold a marching mellophone. There is very little record of the instrument on the Internet; its entire presence consists of a Middle Horn Leader review, a discussion in episode 73 of the MelloCast podcast, an old Reverb listing, and a couple of derelict shells of online store pages for the instrument from over a decade ago (listed price was $899!).
The instrument is called the E-102 (E-102SP in silver plate), and while it was not actually built by Walter Nirschl, it is still an intriguing instrument. Even among mellophone enthusiasts this instrument is usually forgotten, if it was ever known about to begin with. It might as well not exist…right?
Well, I suspect the primary reason it gets forgotten as a mellophone is because it’s not very good at being one. In fact, it’s so bad at being a mellophone that I think it being marketed as one was a mistake. The reason for this deficiency is the bell; one of the mellophone’s defining features both visually and sonically is the extra-wide 10” or larger bell flare. Nirschl decided to skip this feature entirely, instead giving it a relatively small 8” bell. In a way, this makes it somewhat of a poor man’s alto flugelhorn or marching alto.
So, how does it work as an alto flugelhorn? The answer is, unfortunately, not very well. Using the mouthpiece from an alto horn or alto trumpet results in a woefully flat instrument - with a Denis Wick, the instrument is so flat it’s almost down a whole step to E-natural (but not quite low enough that you can actually use it that way). This is a problem shared with the Kanstul KAH-175 alto bugle in G, though that instrument is of infinitely better quality. The Kanstul is at least in tune when you use a marching mellophone mouthpiece like a Benge Mello 6, which is what it was designed for. The same cannot be said of the Nirschl E-102, as even with the shallowest marching mellophone mouthpiece it still plays flat with the main tuning slide all the way in!
Weirdly, the mouthpieces I found to work best with the Nirschl don’t even have the right shank: a French horn mouthpiece and an antique Conn circular mellophone mouthpiece. Despite not seating in the Nirschl’s mouthpiece receiver at all, they gave the best sound and intonation out of all the mouthpieces I had, and I gave its new owner the old Conn mouthpiece when I sold it. That mouthpiece never worked well in any of my circular mellophones!
I can see now why the Nirschl E-102 never took off. In its factory state, it is thruthfully as useless as the Getzen frumpet, and bears the odd distinction of being the only marching mellophone (or mellophone-adjacent object) I know of that actually works better with a horn mouthpiece. With marching mellophone or alto horn mouthpieces, your only real option is to get the horn lengthened to E-flat, as the main tuning slide has no room to shorten up to pitch with those mouthpieces.
If you really want a small-bell mellophone in F, I’d recommend waiting to get lucky and find a Kanstul KMA-275 marching alto. It’s everything the Nirschl wishes it was and more.
Yamaha Mellophone Sisters
The Yamaha YMP-200 series of marching mellophones is the standard by which all other marching mellophones are measured. It is well-known to be arguably the best marching mellophone there is, so it often commands significantly higher prices on the used market than any other brand. The current model, the YMP-204M, is the pinnacle of mellophone design; however, even the first YMP-201M is an excellent instrument leaps and bounds ahead of most other marching brass.
However, the YMP-201M was not the first Yamaha mellophone. That honor goes to the rare and mostly unknown (at least in the West) YMP-201 (no M) circular mellophone.
On the left is my YMP-201; on the right is my YMP-201M. They’re sisters!
However, the 201M is not just a 201 re-wrapped to point the bell forwards; there are some significant differences. The 201 has a huge 12” bell and a small .449” bore, while the 201M has a more standard 10” bell and .462” bore. The 201 can play in F or E-flat just by rerouting the two tuning slides built into the instrument - no extra slides needed! (This was also a feature on certain York mellophones.) Meanwhile, the 201M only plays in F. The 201 also has the traditional cornet shank, while the 201M uses a trumpet shank like other marching mellophones. Despite the only difference in designation being a single “M”, the two instruments are completely separate designs.
They play and sound different, too. The 201M sounds like a marching mellophone should, has a fabulous upper register, and can sound like an alto flugelhorn with an alto horn mouthpiece. It is light, balanced, and easy to play. The 201 meanwhile has a smaller yet darker sound that blends with anything. While other circular mellophones have more colorful, interesting sounds (my 1925 Buescher 25 and 1918 Conn 6E come immediately to mind), the 201M could be the ultimate gigging circular mellophone. It plays in tune, it has fast modern valves, it has a transparent, chameleon sound, but it can still light up and is easy to play in all registers. It is not the most glamorous circular mellophone, but it just works.
It is also how modern it feels in comparison to all other circular mellophones that makes it as interesting as it is. It feels modern because it IS modern; it started production in the 1980s! From what I have been told by a Japanese source, French horns were too expensive for many school bands in Japan, so they used the traditional mellophone into the 1990s as a French horn substitute. Yamaha thus made the relatively affordable YMP-201 exclusively for the Japanese domestic market, hence why it is so rare in the West.
If you can find either a YMP-201 or any YMP-20xM for a good price, I would highly recommend it. Both are the most competent instruments of their type and can be played to any standard. I never thought my Conn 16E would step down as my primary gigging bell-front alto brass instrument, but once my 201M arrived I knew it had been dethroned. With a Hammond 5MP marching mellophone mouthpiece, the 201M is unbeatable.
Alto Cornet
The alto cornet in F or E-flat is a rare bird. The easiest way to get your hands on one (at least in North America) is to find a DEG model 1220 from the 1970s. This is tricky to do, because they are usually labelled as mellophones on sale ads. DEG themselves marketed the 1220 as a “marching alto/French horn”, but that is a very inaccurate description of the instrument. It is a true alto cornet in F, with optional E-flat slide. Over the years I have seen several come and go on eBay, and it seems that they were made with at least three different bell sizes. The one I owned had the smallest and most common size that I have seen, at about 6.1”.
The 1220 was manufactured for DEG by Willson, as were many DEG/Dynasty instruments in the 1970s. Willson also sold a (non-DEG-branded) version standing in E-flat in their home market of Switzerland; I would love to know if it was marketed there as an alto cornet, and which model came first. It has a trumpet shank, accepts flugelhorn mutes, and is not much larger than a standard B-flat cornet. Alto horn mouthpieces are the best fit, though I’ve also had good results with an extremely small trombone mouthpiece.
It plays very well, and despite overwhelming external similarities to the 1970s Dynasty III alto bugle (also made by Willson), it sounds noticeably different even when both are played with the same mouthpiece. The Dynasty III sounds like a big flugelhorn (which is essentially what it is) with a horn-like edge when pushed, while the DEG 1220 is all cornet. Noticeably brighter and easily colored, with a rocking low register and a secure high register that requires a good deal of effort above written high C (sounding F5). Unlike many uncommon alto brass instruments, the 1220 has lock-tight slots. Intonation is not perfect but easily manageable.
While I don’t believe the 1220 is much of a soloist’s instrument, it is a champion at playing in a brass section. It can blend seamlessly with trombones or flugelhorns, and I have used it very successfully in recording sessions to do just that. In a 6-part horn section consisting of 2 trumpets, flugelhorn, alto cornet, and 2 trombones, the alto cornet is the perfect middle voice. The Yamaha YMP-201 (non-M) circular mellophone has similar qualities, but the DEG 1220 is more convenient to bring to a session due to its very compact size and forward-facing bell. This also makes it an excellent desk instrument for the alto brass player, or even the low brass player.
In short, the DEG 1220 is an excellent instrument that any multi-brass player could find good uses for, especially in the studio. They don’t show up for sale very often, but they usually go for a few hundred dollars. You’ll have the most luck finding one hiding in the mellophone ads.
Meehaphone
The Meehaphone is an enormously rare breed of 2-valve competition bugle in G, built and used from 1987 to 1991. It was designed by Jack Meehan and Zig Kanstul for the Concord Blue Devils drum and bugle corps, in an effort to streamline their middle voice section from three types of G bugle (mellophone, flugelhorn, and French horn) to one.
The exact number built is not certain, but as the meehaphones were built by Kanstul specifically for the Blue Devils, it is likely that there were only enough made to fill out the corps’ mid-voice section. It seems that at the time the Blue Devils’ mid-voice was consistently 14 players, based on instrumentations noted in this Middle Horn Leader interview with Wayne Downey and my own studying of the relevant footage online. It is thus reasonable to conclude that there were most likely 14 production meehaphones built. There was also at least one prototype built in F with 3 valves, which is now owned by Bobby Pirtle and resembles a giant flugelhorn.
According to the late Ken Norman, the meehaphone has a bell flare identical to the Olds BU-10 and Conn 92L French horn bugles, mated to a 2-valve .415” bore flugelhorn body. It is essentially a bell-front field descant horn in G. At the time, Terry Warburton made custom mouthpieces for the meehaphones, labelled “Downey BD”. The Blue Devils used an all-meehaphone alto section for the 1987-1990 DCI seasons, and in 1991 they used 4 mellophones and 10 meehaphones. The meehaphones were shelved shortly thereafter when new 3-valve G flugelhorns from Yamaha arrived.
According to all accounts, they were the loudest alto bugle ever created. In fact, on the bell is stamped “MFL”, which does not stand for “Marching Flugelhorn” but “Mother F***ing Loud”! They had a darker sound than mellophones and projected very well, but notes above written G at the top of the staff (sounding D5) were very hard to center. Here’s the Blue Devils’ 1988 show on YouTube, with plenty of meehaphone action to go around. After 1991, the meehaphones fell off the map. Most of them were lost in a single shipment, which has never been found. There are only a handful whose whereabouts are known, and all but one are on display in various states of functionality in drum corps-related museums.
So, that’s the lore…now, here’s my practical experience.
Here is an original Kanstul meehaphone, serial #1028, that I had the privilege of owning for a while. It was previously owned by Ken Norman, and is the single known example not in a museum.
When played softly, it has a French flugelhorn-like quality to the sound, which makes sense considering the .415” flugel leadpipe and valve block. When pushed, it gets bright with a trumpet-like edge, but without what I would describe as the mellophone’s tearing metal zing. It’s a very interesting sound that’s clearly related to my other alto bugles, but at the same time standing apart from them.
But don’t let me just talk about how it sounds. Have a listen for yourself!
These clips were all recorded close-miced into a Cascade Fat Head ribbon microphone and SSL2 audio interface. The ensemble excerpt in particular provides a good summary of the meehaphone’s qualities…both good and bad. The notes above the staff live up to their squirrelly reputation; while I could play them effectively (I suspect thanks to my Conn 16E experience), it is certainly a treacherous register. In general the intonation isn’t the best, but it’s nowhere near the worst I’ve played either.
It’s important to note that I did not have an original Downey BD mouthpiece made by Terry Warburton for the meehaphones. Mine came with a Burbank F mouthpiece with a cylindrical shank, and while it worked I didn’t feel that it was an ideal mouthpiece for the instrument.
For more playing and practical information about the meehaphone, check out this video: